metallichydra Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 you can get rust from care packages from the printing pod use a rust deoxidiser to get chlorine of course you need salt so if you dont have a salt geyser, this is not renewable chlorine. so this whole post is useless! as @Grimgaw said, you can get brine (and salt water too, i think) from the pod, so this post isnt useless. here's the numbers: for rust: each care package contains 1000 kg of rust for each 600 g of rust, you get 30 g of chlorine and 570 g of oxygen which means, that rust will be converted to chorine at a 1:20 ratio this means, that for each care package of rust you get, you can get 50 kg of chlorine i havent calculated the stuff for brine and salt water. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophlette Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 You made me laugh. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 You can get brine from the pod. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Grimgaw said: You can get brine from the pod. Talking about "renewable" and "care packages" at once always feels so wrong to me ... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Lilalaunekuh said: Talking about "renewable" and "care packages" at once always feels so wrong to me ... I very agree with this. Except for common plant seed and eggs because we can just depend on care package just once. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I mean, since we mastered the art of Alchemy, isn't any gas renewable? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 even with a geyser, saltvine plant consumes way too much. I think they need to rebalance it where wild version doesn't consume chlorine. requires chlorine atmosphere but does not drain it. currently with a geyser its not enough. realize the geyser goes to dormant and my entire chlorine gets drained and we're talking 5 salt vines. trying to make bleech stone with sneaky puff isn't even worth the trouble. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, RonEmpire said: trying to make bleech stone with sneaky puff isn't even worth the trouble. Other options: Saltvines consume way to much. Balm lillies just need a finite amount. Gassy moos come at a time where there is no more need for additional power. (Just using them for the additional polluted water I´am able to produce using additional natural gas generators.) ... For me, squeaky puffts are still the best way to use my chlorine (if I got a vent). But I don´t use them to produce bleachstone, I just leave all the bleachstone to offgass in the stable. => Chlorine -> Meat/Lime Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said: => Chlorine -> Meat/Lime the same could be said about dense pufft. given the critter cramp limits on space, its better to use dense buff to get meat and get oxylite the bleachstone has no other purpose other than fertilizing lettece. if you're using it to off gas chlorine- you're actually getting LESS chlorine using sneaky puffs because they consume and poop half of mass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, RonEmpire said: the bleachstone has no other purpose other than fertilizing lettece. if you're using it to off gas chlorine- you're actually getting LESS chlorine If you don't fertilise lettuce, you want less chlorine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Grimgaw said: If you don't fertilise lettuce, you want less chlorine. saltvine needs it. sadly, table salt and federalizer are temporary boost. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 If you were unlucky with a chlorine geyser, you still might have one of the new chlorine planets with unlimited gas / bleachstone. I believe a salt water geyser is guaranteed if what you want is salt though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 10 hours ago, RonEmpire said: the bleachstone has no other purpose other than fertilizing lettece. if you're using it to off gas chlorine- you're actually getting LESS chlorine using sneaky puffs because they consume and poop half of mass. 3 In my eyes, there is no point in having bleach stone in the first place. Spoiler I play on the worst immunity setting, so there should be some use for chlorine, but I am able to even supply my lavatories with germ-free water without using it. (Just some chained water reservoirs.^^) What can you do with bleach stone: Run a hand sanitizer: Faster animation time than a sink, but the delivery and possible chlorine contamination make it worse. Feeding it to plants: Just good if you want to make sushi. (Sushi adds the most kcal in the cooking process.) If I got no need for something, I try to dispose of it in the least wasteful way. => If I would have a pacu farm already and were in the mood to make sushi, I would go and grow waterweed. (But I am just waiting for a balance patch affecting the sushi recipe. Most cooking recipes add ~25% kcal to the processed food and increase the quality. Sushi, on the other hand, more than doubles the kcal count.) No pacus => no need for waterweed => no need for bleach stone => Ignore bleach stone altogether => Think of leaving bleach stone inside your squeaky puft ranch as a way to half the food(/Chlorine) consumption. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 7:36 AM, metallichydra said: for each 600 g of rust, you get 30 g of chlorine and 570 g of oxygen The numbers are 450 g of rust/s and 150 g of salt/s, resulting in 18 kg of chlorine and 342 kg of oxygen per cycle, while a saltvine consumes 10.08 kg of chlorine a cycle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 23 hours ago, Lilalaunekuh said: Gassy moos come at a time where there is no more need for additional power. (Just using them for the additional polluted water I´am able to produce using additional natural gas generators.) now with ethanol, they are dead Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 3 hours ago, N00bieMeap said: now with ethanol, they are dead Not quite the final nail in the coffin for the moos. If they ate a more varied diet, and bred. the moos would be saved Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108537-renewable-chlorine-without-chlorine-geyser/#findComment-1221970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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