fox_kirya Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 My design of a kitchen and food storage. Minimal electricity consumption, sterilization of ingredients, unlimited capacity, cheap. Spoiler Conveyor loader for food ingredients should be accessible for manual manipulation. A loader for meals - shouldn't. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifty_ducks Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I like this. Very clever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Smedstad Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The ingredients storage works because Dupes can pick up things through walls, even if most interactions (like construction) are prohibited through walls. It would never have crossed my mind to design something around that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid945 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Sometime your ingredients would gone for some unknown reason, same happens to your made food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Very elegant! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abt9 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I wonder how automatic supply on the grill works, as it got broken on me hard. I've experienced ingredients being stuck in the grill where even though there are enough ingredients, you cannot make the food. This became a huge problem on me where even with enough food supply, I'm having starvation problems. This only happened when I supply using the auto-sweeper. Maybe it was about specific configurations? Or do you have a workaround for this? Any ideas? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Why 'pockets' need to be L shaped? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 hours ago, Grimgaw said: Why 'pockets' need to be L shaped? Because if you make 'em I-shaped (2 tiles deep), the top tile "blinks" (sterile gas is being replaced with Oxygen and vice versa) causing spoilage of food in a bottom tile. L-shaped pocket prevents this. 16 hours ago, Abt9 said: I wonder how automatic supply on the grill works, as it got broken on me hard. I've experienced ingredients being stuck in the grill where even though there are enough ingredients, you cannot make the food. This became a huge problem on me where even with enough food supply, I'm having starvation problems. This only happened when I supply using the auto-sweeper. Maybe it was about specific configurations? Or do you have a workaround for this? Any ideas? Didn't mention such issues. Maybe I wasn't enough observant... 16 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: Very elegant!  On 29.04.2019 at 11:14 PM, fifty_ducks said: I like this. Very clever. Thank you! =) On 29.04.2019 at 11:59 PM, Gus Smedstad said: The ingredients storage works because Dupes can pick up things through walls, even if most interactions (like construction) are prohibited through walls. It would never have crossed my mind to design something around that. Sorry for my misunderstanding, but I didn't understand if it was a like or not. =) English is not my native.  Thanks everybody for your feedback! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 nicely done man. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Love this idea, it's really unique and a great way to put food right at the dining hall without using a fridge! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I do something similar. Center has peppers for both cookers and sleet wheat in non-powered fridge in CO2. One cooker does pepper bread and BBQ while the other does gristle and stuffed berries for backup. Food is over to the right for dups to grab. Weight plates turn off grills when enough is in stock and turn off lights to berries. Everything in CO2 so low power and mostly automated. I seem to need three tiles to have 100% sterile all the time. Two tiles seems to bounce. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 All right, color me stupid. I built this, the cooked food delivery system part of it, and cannot figure out how to make the sweeper pick up the food to deliver to the dining hall. The loader does not have an option for cooked food.... What am I missing?  Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Denisetwin said: All right, color me stupid. I built this, the cooked food delivery system part of it, and cannot figure out how to make the sweeper pick up the food to deliver to the dining hall. The loader does not have an option for cooked food.... What am I missing?  Cooked food is under the Edible tab. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, beowulf2010 said: Cooked food is under the Edible tab. I cannot tell you how many times I looked under the menu and missed this. Thank you. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Denisetwin said: I cannot tell you how many times I looked under the menu and missed this. Thank you. No problem. I can't count how many times I've "lost" fossils and ceramic... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 Humm, found a couple of cons of my storage: 1. No availability to use automation dependent on fullness of food storage (e.g. turn off plants growing). 2. No way to sweep dropped meals. To sweep meals, I have to manually turn on manual accessibility of a loader for meals, sweep meals from the floor, then turn accessibility off. Pity... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 6 hours ago, fox_kirya said: 1. No availability to use automation dependent on fullness of food storage (e.g. turn off plants growing). Can`t you use weight plates for that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Sasza22 said: Can`t you use weight plates for that? Of course I can, but I can't control types of food this way. "Full refrigerator of pincha"-way won't work. Though I've never used such systems, so the first con doesn't matter for me. Â Maybe in the future, if I'll need it, I'll do something different. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimgaw Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, fox_kirya said: Of course I can, but I can't control types of food this way. There's example of just that few posts above... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Grimgaw said: There's example of just that few posts above... I'm afraid to get elegance (Yoma_Nosme's word) of this build lost. If someone will show the community something clever like this but more automation-friendly - I'll thank him/her. Following Occam's razor principle, I try to not complexify my builds when it's not needed. Anyway, I have to thank you for the feedback! =) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 First let me say very nice build, well done Personally I like to use automation to shut down farms when i have too much ingredients/food Is it possible to use your build and apply sensors (like a pressure plate) when you have enough food on the ground? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1187996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Neotuck said: First let me say very nice build, well done Personally I like to use automation to shut down farms when i have too much ingredients/food Is it possible to use your build and apply sensors (like a pressure plate) when you have enough food on the ground? First, thanks for your assessment. As I said above, currently I don't need such type of automation. Therefore I didn't think on this question. But at first look button doesn't let know amount of some types of food. If you only need to know total amount to shut your farms down then buttons are of course ok, IMO. Edit: I hope I understood you correctly and your question wasn't an ask for permission to use this design. XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1188001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, fox_kirya said: Edit: I hope I understood you correctly and your question wasn't an ask for permission to use this design. XD You understood me fine lol I don't plagiarize other players builds. XD Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1188002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_kirya Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, Neotuck said: You understood me fine lol I don't plagiarize other players builds. XD I meant I don't care if somebody uses my builds. =) Even more, it makes me feel good. As for me, if I like some design - I just use it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1188006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, fox_kirya said: I meant I don't care if somebody uses my builds. =) Even more, it makes me feel good. As for me, if I like some design - I just use it. When I say plagairize I mean to post some one else's build and claim it as my own. I agree it feels good to see other players use my designs Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105454-pragmatic-meals-and-ingredients-storage/#findComment-1188014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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