Grimgaw Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Miravlix said: The PROBLEM is the RATE of gathering the material, sure I can get infinite clay, but so far I'm always out as my Morb farm just can't create PO fast enough to create it. Is the rate of acquisition just Clay specific? Have you tired polluted water bottles? On the other hand maybe you don't really need to build everything from ceramic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1159555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Miravlix said: Let get a few things clear, most resources is technically UNLIMITED. Gold and maybe some others is finite resources, but if you know about the Gold problem from the beginning you can adjust your usage to make it a practically infinite resource. The PROBLEM is the RATE of gathering the material, sure I can get infinite clay, but so far I'm always out as my Morb farm just can't create PO fast enough to create it. Ah well I'm afraid I can't help you there. From a game balance perspective they have to create some artificial scarcity of the more useful resources. This encourages players to implement various non optimal constructs, hence creativity and wonderful contraptions. Want steel, need Lime, want lime build giant automated pacu farm. In many cases you can get by with a small amount of the more scarce resources namely steel and ceramic. But yes there will be times where you just have to wait until you get that 30 tons of steel smelted. In the interim build a petroleum boiler, slickster farm, enlarge that water tank, tame those steam vents/Iron volcano. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1159557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowulf2010 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Miravlix said: The PROBLEM is the RATE of gathering the material, sure I can get infinite clay, but so far I'm always out as my Morb farm just can't create PO fast enough to create it. Solution: Switch to polluted water bottle offgassing. Morbs aren't all that great at creating polluted oxygen... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1159612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinklike Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 26/02/2019 at 4:20 PM, JohnFrancis said: ...factual fail tested religious science... I don't even... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1159871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Have some trouble in my map at cycle 2000 cause i made some change and now run out of water (only have 2 steam geyser on the map, no water geyser, no polluted water geyser) quite annoying cause now i need some to make a hydrogen rocket to get some Moo to use my useless 3 chlorine geyser i have to make gas energy and the sweet water i need..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1160618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee1026 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Moos don't generate enough water to matter. They produce 16.67 grams of natural gas per second each, which is only about 12 grams of water per second. Each of your dupes consume about 110 grams per second, so that is a no-go. If you access to rocketry, setup a steam rocket to the nearest planet with no payload and collect the exhaust. You should profit by over a ton per trip. which is about 500 grams per second per rocket. That is a much better use of the surface than gassy moos. For energy, if you are not maxing out your oil wells, you are missing out. If you cook the oil into petrol via temperature, it is water positive. If you go for the full crude->petrol->sour gas->methane->natural gas route, it is even more water positive. 6 kilos of natural gas a second should generally be enough power for most people. (533 kilowatts) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1160624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishakaru Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, lee1026 said: 6 kilos of natural gas a second should generally be enough power for most people. Only guaranteed 3.33333kg/s of crude or ~2kg + Vents nat gas. (plus about 250g/s from CO2->slickster conversion). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1160652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuhybrid Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 5:49 PM, Miravlix said: Ignisous rock Water EVERYTHING I'm using up all of the local resources. What? lol... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/103290-end-game-lack-of-resources/page/3/#findComment-1160827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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