Glass forge output pipe breaking

[Craigjw]

Why is the glass forge output pipe breaking, it's made of insulated ceramic.  Does the glass forge output glass above 1849c?

Periodically, I get a message near the pipe saying Cold damage.  I don't understand what's going wrong here.

I have gold pipes with 20c PW cooling the area.

Is the glass forge similar to the refinery, where the new glass shouldn't be made until the previous batch has finished draining?  This is unlikely to be the case, as I've just installed a sensor and the first batch made broke the pipe again.

 

[Nemez]

remove water from the floor

[PhailRaptor]

What's happening is the liquid Glass is changing to solid while in the pipes, breaking them.  The Glass itself is losing too much heat to the Pipes, even though they are Insulated Ceramic (tiny heat transfer).  This will, unfortunately, continue happening until all the pipe segments rise up "to temperature".

Other than pre-heating them with a different liquid, I don't know what the solution would be.

4 minutes ago, Nemez said:

remove water from the floor

That's....  not relevant.

[Coolthulhu]

5 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said:

That's....  not relevant.

It's incredibly relevant.

For first frame or so, the glass interacts with environment from one of the middle-bottom tiles. If that tile contains something that exchanges heat quickly, the glass will cool down too fast and then will be placed into the pipe at solid temperature. This is also why you need insulated tiles below the forge - sometimes (for example, in vacuum) the glass will interact with one of the tiles below the forge.

[Nemez]

7 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said:

That's....  not relevant.

water cools liquid glass and

 

9 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said:

the liquid Glass is changing to solid while in the pipe

 

[Craigjw]

I think the water being cleared up has solved it.  The forge was working fine for a while, then the water on the floor appeared from some ice and that's when the pipe started to break.

Thanks.  It seems to be working fine again now.

I've modified the room so that any water falling down the access ladder will no long enter the room.

[Gurgel]

I had the same problem a while ago. The thing is, the middle floor tile of the glass forge exchanges heat with the water. That cools the glass down below its solidifying point inside the glass forge, and that breaks the pipe. If you set speed to low and watch the contents of the glass forge, you can observe that cooling in action.

 

[Neotuck]

Just to note there isn't any need to produce glass on an industrial level.

A wheeze and a pool of water to drop the glass into is all you really need.  

[Lifegrow]

8 hours ago, PhailRaptor said:

That's....  not relevant.

Yeah, it really is though. Just like the metal refinery, oil refinery and reservoirs - theres a simulated "tank" tile that interacts with the floor. The liquid being present is cooling the molten glass before it even get's a chance to hit the pipe - which results in insta-breaking. I had the same problem on my previous playthrough and couldn't figure out what the problem was for ages  

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

Just to note there isn't any need to produce glass on an industrial level.

A wheeze and a pool of water to drop the glass into is all you really need.  

Surely that depends how much glass you use. Some people have been building some pretty blingtastic bases with glass recently  

[Neotuck]

11 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Surely that depends how much glass you use. Some people have been building some pretty blingtastic bases with glass recently  

my key wood was "need"

and if you are referring to glass tiles I prefer using diamond

[Gurgel]

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

Just to note there isn't any need to produce glass on an industrial level.

A wheeze and a pool of water to drop the glass into is all you really need.  

I just run the forge until it nearly overheats, then put in water and cool it down again. Mop up the water and it is ready for another go. That works nicely and produces enough glass.

[Lifegrow]

31 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

my key wood was "need"

and if you are referring to glass tiles I prefer using diamond

Jesus, don't be so prickly bud - was referring to some of the pacu tank posts we've seen lately  

I will point out though that diamond is finite, sand isn't.

[Neotuck]

7 minutes ago, Lifegrow said:

Jesus, don't be so prickly bud - was referring to some of the pacu tank posts we've seen lately  

I will point out though that diamond is finite, sand isn't.

seems I gave the wrong impression, sorry about that

and I was referring to my own pacu tank I built over my bedrooms, all with granite (statues and tempshift plates) and diamonds (glass tiles)

and I know diamonds are finite, but there is a lot in the map and not much use for them

[0xFADE]

I had an insulated tile where I was dumping my glass in a water tank take damage. Perhaps the instant heat from the molten glass was enough to damage it?  Anyway I put some diamond glass tiles for it to land on and it hasn’t happened since. 

[Sasza22]

4 hours ago, Lifegrow said:

I will point out though that diamond is finite, sand isn't

You can get large amounts of diamond from close asteroids. If you want to grind some isoresin or fullerene with a steam rocket you will end with quite a bit of diamond. It`s lategame though.

[Neotuck]

2 minutes ago, Sasza22 said:

You can get large amounts of diamond from close asteroids. If you want to grind some isoresin or fullerene with a steam rocket you will end with quite a bit of diamond. It`s lategame though.

Can you fit a solid cargo bay on a steam engine?

[Sasza22]

9 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

Can you fit a solid cargo bay on a steam engine?

With a booster yes. You can reach the closest asteroids. With a 3 cycle travel time + about 2 for refueling i`d argue that`s better than sending rockets to the gas giants for a 30 cycle trip.