TheEvilMango Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 What is the best way to cool water down to Blossom temp? I have a cool slush geyser so would running cold PH2O through the water in raidant pipes be a good and effective way to cool it and if not than how? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yes. Though you need automation to stop the cooling once it reaches cooks temps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, TheEvilMango said: What is the best way to cool water down to Blossom temp? I have a cool slush geyser so would running cold PH2O through the water in raidant pipes be a good and effective way to cool it and if not than how? Id say aquatuner, but i dont know if you want it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, TheEvilMango said: would running cold PH2O through the water in raidant pipes be a good and effective way to cool it and if not than how? I`d do it the other way around. Run the water through a pool polluted water from the slush geyser before pumping it to the plants. It would also work nicely for sleet wheat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Running slush pipes through the farm is more efficient than trying to cool the irrigation water. Cooling the irrigation water directly is easier, but will "waste cold", since water used for irrigation is deleted. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Coolthulhu said: Running slush pipes through the farm is more efficient than trying to cool the irrigation water. Cooling the irrigation water directly is easier, but will "waste cold", since water used for irrigation is deleted. I think the same. But there is a catch - if you deliver hot water then you need more coolant. Or you can reduce water input to hydroponics tiles. This is what I did recently to my sleet wheet farm - each tile has a separate pipe with liquid valve set to 33g/s. This way I need just a little of coolant to run through my farm so the temperatue doesn't rise and plants can grow normally. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 place an aquatuner in slush water sieve the water and run it though the aquatuner once constant supply of 26C water Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 hours ago, TheEvilMango said: What is the best way to cool water down to Blossom temp? I have a cool slush geyser so would running cold PH2O through the water in raidant pipes be a good and effective way to cool it and if not than how? One method that is incredibly low tech early game is to dump all your hot geyser water directly into your pool of pH2O from the slush geyser. Wait a few minutes, and you'll have lovely cool water to pump off and filter out. You can use an ice biome if you don't have a slush geyser and need mass quantities of water. I needed a massive amount of cool water for my aquarium decorations in my home base, and couldn't fill them fast enough, so that was my solution. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Create a heat exchange using the cold PW, made with gold tiles and gold radiant pipes is enough. Having the liquids run in opposite directions is key to creating an effective heat exchange. It is important that you place an element sensor on the warm water input to the heat exchange with a valve on the cold input. The sieve will stop periodically when it runs out of materials, when this happens, the exchange unit will get too cold and when the sieve starts up again, will cool the water too cold, breaking the pipes. Placing an element sensor on the water input, you can stop the input of cold PW. This approach will give you a constant supply of cold water for free, unlike the aquatuner. of course, you can still use the aquatuner approach with the PW after you have made use of the coldness of the PW. Here is my current, Constant cold water at 13.7c. My slush geyser has an average output of 2.3kg/s. The warmed PW, I collect in some vats and send to a refinery, then, out of the refinery, it gets seived and cooled. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 what do you plan to do with the slush geyser downtime? most slush geysers can stay inactive from 40 to 70 cycles Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The average is 2.3kg/s, I have some vats and it's also completely enclosed, so it collects while active and then I use what is stored during downtime. Essentially, I must have enough storage of cold PW that it will last for the duration of the downtime. I also must have enough storage that when it is active, it doesn't become too full. You can see how much storage I have, as the slush geyser is on the Screenshot. Early game, this gives me a nice supply of cold water for free, which is perfect for supplying 30+ bristles while also supplying excess water for other stuff. If I were to expand this heat exchange unit, from 2.3kg/s cold input, it would be able to handle 5kg/s of warm 40c water cooled to 23c. However, I don't need to do this, as I currently have a water issue at the moment and my colony is about to explode due to too much water..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I'm using the warmed PW out of the heat exchanger to fuel the refinery. I collect up to 3 vats of warmed PW for the refinery, before excess gets pumped directly to the seive. I dont' know what use that WW has, it's just there for decoration. The missing tile on the right of the gyeser was caused by too much pressure, I had to remove it. This enclosure will fill up to nearly the top at the end of it's active cycle. The PW from the refinery comes out at 75c. I could use the PW to futher cool stuff, but really, CBA Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilMango Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 The cold slush geyser is my main source of cooling. Running the cold PH2O through raidant pipes through my refinery and the power plant than running the heated water through the metal refinery and than the water sieve. So the aquatuner in the gyser room is out. My main concern is I don't want a set up that will heat my tank of PH20 to much were I can't use it for cooling. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The system I have does exactly what you are wanting, however, I don't use it for cooling my power plant, I have an other cooling system for that. You could if you wanted to, pump the PW from the refinery to a pool and dump an aquatuner in that for further cooling, as the system I have shown outputs PW at a peak 75c if I'm making steel. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilMango Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Ok. I'll give it a try. Thank u. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 My setup may seem a bit convoluted, but it's in survival, therefore, it is what it is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilMango Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 What should the censors and the valves be set at? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Craigjw said: You could if you wanted to, pump the PW from the refinery to a pool and dump an aquatuner in that for further cooling, as the system I have shown outputs PW at a peak 75c if I'm making steel. I pool all my PW in a single large tank where all my aquatuners are set up. I like the idea of pumping my Slush PW though a refinary first, I was worried that it would boil so my current setup uses petroleum in an aquatuner loop which is power hungry and has a long refinery downtime while waiting for the petroleum to cool Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The refinery can't be used all of the time, it has some downtime due to the 2.3kg/s input rate of PW, however, when I'm not using the refinery, the vats build up a supply, however, the slow input rate of PW to the refinery is useful in itself, as it doesn't seem to break the refinery when it can't output the heated liquid quick enough due to dupes having too high tinkering. All vavles are set to te average output rate of the geyser, in this example it's 2.3kg/s. The sensors are just set to detect Water and has a buffer on it. When water is flowing, it waits a little while before switches on the PW on from the opposite side of the heat exchange. The pipes around the refinery basically priotize filling up the input buffer tanks, when they are full, it will output to the output buffer tanks. The refinery outputs to the output buffer tanks also, these make sure that a constant supply of 2.3kg/s of PW reaches the sieve at all times, so that the sensor doesn't trip and turn off the entire system too often. The liquid sensor and pressure sensor are just on/off switches for convenience. Ideally, you'd have an automation arm feeding the sieve from the storage units, but I haven't gotten round to this yet, as this was meant as a stop gap filler until I made a beefier heat exchange elsewhere, where I had more room, but now, CBA. It works, so why fix it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 hours ago, TheEvilMango said: What is the best way to cool water down to Blossom temp? I have a cool slush geyser so would running cold PH2O through the water in raidant pipes be a good and effective way to cool it and if not than how? I tried that but its not enough and its quite slow. Try Aquatuner its much faster and use the cool PH20 to cool the aquatuner. Once the ph20 reachest around 110c dump it out or sent it to a Water Sieve. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 One thing you can do is instead of cooling the water, you cool the air. The hot water will be deleted. If you use a valve to give the blossoms exactly the amount of water they need, they will take longer to overheat. They will overheat eventually, but a lot of that heat will be deleted and you can perhaps cool the air above the hydroponic tiles. I did a test on this a while ago feeding bristle blossoms 90 C water and the blossoms lasted a lot longer. 8 hours ago, Coolthulhu said: Running slush pipes through the farm is more efficient than trying to cool the irrigation water. Cooling the irrigation water directly is easier, but will "waste cold", since water used for irrigation is deleted. 7 hours ago, Angpaur said: I think the same. But there is a catch - if you deliver hot water then you need more coolant. Or you can reduce water input to hydroponics tiles. This is what I did recently to my sleet wheet farm - each tile has a separate pipe with liquid valve set to 33g/s. This way I need just a little of coolant to run through my farm so the temperatue doesn't rise and plants can grow normally. Actually I found having one valve with branches actually lasted longer with 90 C water. Of course, I couldn't cool it properly with 90 C with a reasonable cooling system, so the water will have to be colder than that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have about 50 or so Bristles which are being fed by my slush geyser, I don't see how this is too slow, unless you are after feeding more bristles than that. The point to using a heat exchanger is that you don't waste any cold and that it's constant. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97755-cooling-water/#findComment-1106623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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