Denisetwin Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 16 hours ago, ithilelda said: they can't. They coded it so that dupes check if the stations are in the right room before they do the jobs. ACK when did this change? That's going to screw up my free range shine bug in my main base! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Denisetwin said: ACK when did this change? That's going to screw up my free range shine bug in my main base! I already tested this to be false, most likely a bug Read the later posts Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Neotuck said: I already tested this to be false, most likely a bug Read the later posts thank God. I use free range ranching constantly in my games for Shine bugs and pufts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Carnis said: Mine is superior, just needs some conveyor to collect eggs. The main difference is My dreckos live on hydrogen 60-80% of The Time growing scales, yours maybe 25%. Notice with controlled environment The dreckos sit on hydrogen Also when groomed/sheared. More hydro = More plastic = More win. Dreckos never escape through open pneumatic doors. The difference between mine and yours is mine can hold almost infinite number of Dreckos WITHOUT crowded debuff or expecting debuff. Yours will only hold what? 7-8 dreckos? So if you want to talk about efficiency- more dreckos = more plastic. The door issue is just RNG/luck. it is possible for them to escape when a dupe goes through it. The purpose of mine farm is to house wild drecos that evolve to glossy, and tamed eggs or dreckos that I breed in a controlled environment somewhere else with incubators when I feel like making one fast and moving them here to drop off. With so many dreckos, I don't have a grooming station here to avoid wasting their time. So less down time for my dupes on the grooming- don't need to make them happy because they're eating not confined, not overcrowded. not micro managing expecting debuffs either. As for the hydrogen coverage, I didn't bother to mess with it, but it can be easily tweaked, with a 1 tile airlock along the floor before the opening ladder area. 2 hours ago, Denisetwin said: thank God. I use free range ranching constantly in my games for Shine bugs and pufts. Yea my shine bug is in an open room ranching as well where I'm actually grooming them to constantly to maintain my solar panels, I figured one guy always grooming shine bugs is useful as I'm powering 4 solar panels with just 1 LURE in the middle between all 4 panels. I think the water lock keeping it open and the fact that they won't fly into the water, is a good way to maintain the grooming station from trying to whistle critters from the other side of the asteroid. must be a pathing there where it knows only to groom the ones within the area that can reach it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, RonEmpire said: The door issue is just RNG/luck. it is possible for them to escape when a dupe goes through it. nope. they escape through manual airlocks snd airlocks, but never pneumatic. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Carnis said: nope. they escape through manual airlocks snd airlocks, but never pneumatic. you've been lucky then. I've had a setup in the past where they have slipped by a few times. then again I had more dreckos than you do - so the chance for escape is higher. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, RonEmpire said: Dreckos WITHOUT crowded debuff or expecting debuff. Actually i believe overcrowded and expecting (it`s called cramped now) doesn`t affecttheir scale growth. Currently i`m keeping my dreckos overcrowded so they eat less and just breed them in another ranch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Sasza22 said: Actually i believe overcrowded and expecting (it`s called cramped now) doesn`t affecttheir scale growth. Currently i`m keeping my dreckos overcrowded so they eat less and just breed them in another ranch. it affects their reproduction growth. yea. like I said reason for my setup is to just have a dumping a ground with no dupe maintenance, other than sheering. one last note. the reason for feeding them blossom or mealwood is to increase chance of getting glossy eggs. none of my dreckos are tamed. I just collect them wild and drop them off here. collect eggs and drop them in the container sweep and drop them. the white ones eventually become blue from the food source. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithilelda Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Denisetwin said: ACK when did this change? That's going to screw up my free range shine bug in my main base! yeah my bad. I was looking into farming station codes and automatically assumed that all stations work the same. Obviously they don't... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 hours ago, RonEmpire said: None of my dreckos are tamed. I just collect them wild and drop them off here. collect eggs and drop them in the container sweep and drop them. the white ones eventually become blue from the food source. One egg / 90 cycles so this Will take hundreds of cycles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 hours ago, RonEmpire said: one last note. the reason for feeding them blossom or mealwood is to increase chance of getting glossy eggs. Mealwood increases chance of glossy, Bristle does not. As @Lifegrow already mentioned, 'open' ranching has been around since Ranching Mk1. It's not actually broken, you just can't see the results directly. If you setup a room with 180 cells, you can setup a 15 critter ranch in a room that can't be defined (largest is 128). At 16 it overcrowds. If you take whatever your setup is and do a large count, you'll find there's usually a limit. Completely open ranching for me has had some odd results, however, when pacus come into play. I've found them to be hit or miss as to if they'll actually incur the overcrowding penalty on hatches. My guess is I missed something when I was trying to figure it out and I just shoved a few doors across the roof of them in aggravation. 42 minutes ago, Carnis said: One egg / 90 cycles so this Will take hundreds of cycles. Not entirely. I've used this technique before during early game to shove a handful dreckos into a normal mealwood farm. Once they've eaten, they'll keep improving towards glossy from the mealwood bonus for a while. Once you've got *1* glossy egg, you can proceed from there. However I'd ask how long someone using this tactic typically keep a ranch like this active, as a 150 cycle lifespan actually changing generations of dreckos seems absurd. You're looking at a 1000+ cycle playstyle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1102961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonEmpire Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I just incubate them as quickly as possible and drop them off. my map has tons of wild deckos all over the place it ridiculous. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1103475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMFan79 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 My farm is very simple, but it works fine: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1107149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, DMFan79 said: My farm is very simple, but it works fine: why 2 grooming stations? and no critter drop off? how do you maintain the population? just let the eggs incubate on the ground? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1107185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMFan79 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 The two grooming stations are to speed up the process and make sure all of them stay as much time as possible inside hydrogen. I never incubate eggs, the population mantains itself. If I need to open another ranch, I just move a couple of eggs in a new room (unless you want to use the exploit of the grooming station working out of the stable, in this case they keep laying eggs and population increases exponentially). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1107186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfALegend Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 figured I'd drop this in: this was from 1 hatch So is it time for a hatch-pocalypse? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97357-fun-drecko-ranch/page/2/#findComment-1107203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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