What are some tips for being a considerate player on public servers? (other than not griefing, of course)

[M0thFr0st]

I know the basics, like 'don't take everything you see' and 'don't grief', but what else is an essential part of being a considerate player?

[ShadowDuelist]

There is a pinned topic about this above, perhaps this is what you are asking?
 

 

[Auth]

15 minutes ago, M0thFr0st said:

I know the basics, like 'don't take everything you see' and 'don't grief', but what else is an essential part of being a considerate player?

 

On 3/2/2016 at 6:42 PM, Auth said:

I do have a few things of my own.

Proper Ghost Etiquette

For some reason 99% of the time someone dies on my server people have no idea what to do about it.

If you die while someone is struggling with sanity, just leave the game and wait for a call back, or just go back after a couple minutes. It's very annoying when I'm having a smackdown with derclups and you two ghosts are floating around having a chat, so I have to run far away from the deer and quickly type in "LEAVE" then run more then "INSANE" then run more then "PLEASE"

Another thing, don't haunt items just for the heck of it. I know they removed destroying buildings and lighting fires, but I still find it annoying when ghosts go around haunting things willy nilly, especially when you're in a hound fight and suddenly your ghost friend just made them all fire and ice hounds. Or when you go to harvest the bee farms which are now overtaken by killer bees and evil flowers.

It's always good to wait and ask things if people are busy while you're dead if you don't know what to do - Usually people react more kindly to people who are patient with being revived rather than "I AM DEAD BECAUSE OF YOU MAKE A HEART NOW STUPID" Or, just craft yourself a life giving amulet to have on you at all times. Just, don't put it in a backpack.

Don't waste limited resources/resources in small supply

Look, I know it's fun to play a panflute for the heck of it, but please don't. I mean, I don't rely on the panflute, but situations do arise where it's useful. And I love music as much as the next guy, but I can think of a ton of better uses of nightmare fuel & pig skin than 30 one man bands.

Don't run mods you don't use (Or anybody else uses)

Hey, remember that character mod you got that nobody uses? You don't? Get rid of it. It plagues up your mod list and sometimes mods make you run slower. And as a host, your lag is reflected to everyone else. Plus, let's not forget- A lot of these mods are downright broken, so even if you're not using them, someone will, and they will know how to abuse it.

Don't do major things without asking

I understand you feel the need to have 400 drying racks. But it'd be nice if you asked if you should use the materials on them, or at least where you should've placed them.

Signs

They made these for a reason. Normally this helps negate the whole "WHER IS BAES FRUNDS I WNANT 2 PLAI" as they can read signs pointing them towards base.

....And of course there's the Ocuvigil and moonlenses, having two people hold a compass in their hand, or even the lazy deserter. There's so many ways to find your way around.

Jobs

This is less of being "nice" and more of actually being a useful player. If you notice some resource is being used a lot, or something needs to be done, don't go around waiting for it to happen, go commit yourself to being a lumberjack for a few days. Go be a hunter, and don't be afraid to make your own tools! Normally not having the correct supplies leads to some unfortunate instances and sometimes even death. I understand if you're not a fighter, but mister bigshot host man can't always be around for every hound attack. You need to defend yourself or be ready to make an escape at any time. *stares at the citizens of my server*

Don't play experimental chef

Now, there's nothing wrong with cooking in the crockpot. But please, use the wiki if you're new to it. I don't get mad at people for making wet goop, but wasted food is wasted food, and instead of the trash can it could go to someone's hunger meter.

Know when to say "No" to a fight

I know. Not everyone can fight deerclops. And as much as you running in and throwing your body at it helps, if you don't know how to fight something, don't go running in thinking you do. If you are curious or want to help, look at the people currently chipping away on the boss. You may notice that more seasoned players have a pattern, now all you have to do is try and copy that pattern. But unless you don't feel comfortable with that, then just stay out of the fray, save your own life, and everyone else's sanity.

 

[Maxposting]

Don't freaking wear bee queen crown just to freakcening fight Goose

[WilsonGuy_]

Don't be An a**hole and first practice in Don't Starve (not Together)

[Auth]

10 hours ago, Wilson_pl said:

Don't be An a**hole and first practice in Don't Starve (not Together)

That’s not always the best course of action, because a large amount of the playerbase only owns DST via the bonus friend copy.

[Alarsin]

12 hours ago, Wilson_pl said:

Don't be An a**hole and first practice in Don't Starve (not Together)

Why would you practice in singleplayer to learn to play DST if you can practice in DST instead?

[Rosten]

Yeah, don't practice DST in DS. The games are vastly different at this point.; DS is a lot harsher, for one, and is actually built for a single-player experience (I.e. bosses don't have a bajillion health), so they're pretty different experiences. Your best bet is to just play with a friend who's also new to learn the game.

[Maxposting]

DragonBuff , you dont have your 2750 hp easy dragon in dst without lavaes , so saying that people shall do ds before dst is kinda bad

[WilsonGuy_]

14 hours ago, Alarsin said:

Why would you practice in singleplayer to learn to play DST if you can practice in DST instead?

Just practice alone.

16 hours ago, Auth said:

That’s not always the best course of action, because a large amount of the playerbase only owns DST via the bonus friend copy.

Then practice in DST but alone.

11 hours ago, Rosten said:

Yeah, don't practice DST in DS. The games are vastly different at this point.; DS is a lot harsher, for one, and is actually built for a single-player experience (I.e. bosses don't have a bajillion health), so they're pretty different experiences.

Or practice in DST but alone.

Spoiler

Flame me.

 

[Rosten]

9 hours ago, Wilson_pl said:

Or practice in DST but alone.

This is a mistake, if you're a new player, you will be absolutely slaughtered by the Giants and other bosses (especially clopsy) even more than you normally would, the DST bosses are balanced for having multiple players and will be so much harder on a new player who doesn't know what they're doing.

[ShadowDuelist]

4 hours ago, Rosten said:

This is a mistake, if you're a new player, you will be absolutely slaughtered by the Giants and other bosses (especially clopsy) even more than you normally would, the DST bosses are balanced for having multiple players and will be so much harder on a new player who doesn't know what they're doing.

But doesnt the frustration of getting your 31 days of work absolutely wrecked, over and over, make the eventual victory alone much more satisfying?

[Sicko Hog]

6 hours ago, Rosten said:

This is a mistake, if you're a new player, you will be absolutely slaughtered by the Giants and other bosses (especially clopsy) even more than you normally would,

No, not really. For a new player that has no idea how to handle him, getting destroyed by Deerclops with 2000 health isn't any different than getting destroyed by Deerclops with 4000 health.

[WilsonGuy_]

On 23.09.2018 at 12:44 AM, Rosten said:

Yeah, don't practice DST in DS. The games are vastly different at this point.; DS is a lot harsher, for one, and is actually built for a single-player experience (I.e. bosses don't have a bajillion health), so they're pretty different experiences. Your best bet is to just play with a friend who's also new to learn the game.

But Kiting is far harder...

[Rosten]

8 hours ago, Field Field said:

No, not really. For a new player that has no idea how to handle him, getting destroyed by Deerclops with 2000 health isn't any different than getting destroyed by Deerclops with 4000 health.

It makes all the difference. 80 hits vs 160 hits is an absurd amount of difference for someone who's risking getting hit with each kite attempt, plus it makes it even less feasible to kill Clopsy for the eyebrella, which is super important for sanity management in Spring. DST, surprisingly enough, being a multiplayer game, wasn't designed for solo players.

58 minutes ago, Wilson_pl said:

But Kiting is far harder...

How...? Lag, I guess. Get better internet

[WilsonGuy_]

2 hours ago, Rosten said:

How...? Lag, I guess. Get better internet

You misunderstood me. Kiting is harder in DS, on DST it's easy. For me it is legitimately easier to fight enemies in DST because you can far easier avoid each punch and deal more hits between each other, despite that HP buff.

On 22.09.2018 at 1:43 AM, M0thFr0st said:

I know the basics, like 'don't take everything you see' and 'don't grief', but what else is an essential part of being a considerate player?

Help People out-on-shight, revive ghosts-on-shight, upgrade & correct inperfections in bases-on-shight, give stuff to people who are asking you for-on-shight, drop items before leaving-on-shight, kick pyros and rollback-on-shight.

[Rosten]

Oh yeah, on-topic...

I think if you're in a new server it's usually a good idea to get a project going, my usual go-to is Dragonfruit Farms, people will appreciate you more if it's obvious that you're doing something big to help out, and it disperses the workload for the more management-heavy things to more people than just the de-facto group leader.

[Maxposting]

17 minutes ago, Rosten said:

Oh yeah, on-topic...

I think if you're in a new server it's usually a good idea to get a project going, my usual go-to is Dragonfruit Farms, people will appreciate you more if it's obvious that you're doing something big to help out, and it disperses the workload for the more management-heavy things to more people than just the de-facto group leader.

Even if I play solo , dragonfruit farms are good for beefalo  domestication

[Sicko Hog]

11 hours ago, Rosten said:

It makes all the difference. 80 hits vs 160 hits is an absurd amount of difference for someone who's risking getting hit with each kite attempt

On paper, yes, 160 sounds like a big number. But I really doubt that, by the time you're skilled enough to perfectly kite Deerclops 80 times, you wouldn't be able to do it 80 more.

11 hours ago, Rosten said:

DST, surprisingly enough, being a multiplayer game, wasn't designed for solo players.

This is a really silly thing to say when you consider that 90% of the DST changes were just bumping up health and resource numbers. Yes, it was balanced to accommodate multiple players, but it really doesn't increase the difficulty much when you think of the balance decisions in context.

[Rosten]

30 minutes ago, Field Field said:

On paper, yes, 160 sounds like a big number. But I really doubt that, by the time you're skilled enough to perfectly kite Deerclops 80 times, you wouldn't be able to do it 80 more.

This is a really silly thing to say when you consider that 90% of the DST changes were just bumping up health and resource numbers. Yes, it was balanced to accommodate multiple players, but it really doesn't increase the difficulty much when you think of the balance decisions in context.

The problem is more that it's going to mess up your other resources the longer you have to stick around him and away from your base, namely Sanity and Heat (especially presuming that you're not wearing your winter gear while fighting a boss.) Plus, most people aren't perfect at kiting, everybody is going to make a mistake eventually.

It's probably been quite a long time since you've played DS, but DST and DS are vastly different games. There is a *lot* more difference than just resource and health numbers.

Still, if you're a new player, your best bet is to learn DS first, then move onto playing DST. You're going to learn a lot of bad habits if you just start off playing with randos, and DST solo is a practically incompatible experience for both games

[MonsieurO]

On 22/09/2018 at 1:43 AM, M0thFr0st said:

I know the basics, like 'don't take everything you see' and 'don't grief', but what else is an essential part of being a considerate player?

My 2 cents on the topic :

1) Don't play DST to play alone, which means when you join a server, let the others know that you're willing to contribute to the survival of everybody instead of just wandering about alone as if you were playing DS.

2) Don't go afk or you will be kicked, as it's far easier and safer to kick somebody than having to babysit him / her 24/7.

3) Make sure to know what the objectives of the team is before building anything permanent. Maybe you joined a server where ppl just want to survive, but some others like to basebuild so make sure you're aware of that if that's the case. I myself am very annoyed when somebody just randomly build stuff around the base even though it's obvious I was placing the furniture on specific turfs at specific locations.

4) As it's been said before, don't go into a fight you're not prepared to. If you agree to fight a specific boss, people will assume you know how to fight it, and it might ruin the fight if it turns out you don't.

5) It's always a good habit to ask people what kind of resource is the most needed when you get on the server. If you manage to get a decent amount of said resource, this will be appreciated by the other players.

6) Depending on the current day on the server, it might be a good idea to spend a few days gathering some supplies for yourself before actually joining the base, as if you were playing solo (just for a few days though, as said in point 1). This way you will not jeopardize the well being of others by taking supplies they might have needed.

7) Communicate with the rest of the players. DST community is overall healthy (as opposed to some other games) so there's a good chance people will be happy to help you and give you advice on how to proceed on that server.

8) Enjoy playing !