Tempshift plate vs Drywall

[Craigjw]

Tempshift plates are not supposed to conduct heat and transfer, ie shift the temperature about.

Drywall, gives the description that it is an insulating back wall.

So, why does an obsidian tempshift plate have the same conductivity and heat capacity of an obsidian Drywall, when the tempshift plate uses twice the materials.  I'd at least expect the Tempshift plate to have more conductivity and capacity than the insulating drywall....

 

[blash365]

Well apart from any more technical insights, that some other forum members will surely be able to provide, you have to understand that the tempshift plate is an older building than the drywall.

Back in the days before the tempshift plates, players would use pipes, wires or similar buildings to conduct temperature across tiles. Klei saw the need for a building that is dedicated for this purpose only and does not interfer with the other layers: the tempshift plate. So basically the design idea of tempshift plates was simply having some kind of material on a layer that conducts temperature based on the values of the chosen material.

To make those tempshift plates superior to the "creative usage" of other buildings, they were given a higher amount of mass.

The drywall has a different purpose. It was added to allow players to build rooms out in the space biome without gases being sucked out. Maybe they are not sufficiently defined from the tempshift plates yet.

However, while they might share some of their properties, the tempshift plate still has higher mass than the drywall. So the temperature stored inside of the plate should still be superior in the tempshift plate.

[Sasza22]

I think the tempshift plate acts like it takes more than 1 tile. Like it is present in all surrownding tiles so it trnsfer heat faster.

[tzionut]

Tempshift plate transfer heat to the adjacent tiles, drywall isolate the vacuum tiles on the surface for not loosing gases and liquids. Each one have different role. It's like compare apple whit grapes.

[heckubis]

also the mass of the object does play a part in the math. they have the same characteristics yes but one will take twice the time to heat/transfer as the other on volume of mass alone its not a big difference but it is there

[Sevio]

@Craigjw

A drywall won't conduct heat with anything but the gas/liquid that is in front of it, so its conductivity doesn't matter all that much. For tempshift plates, conductivity is the most important statistic for how quickly it will equalize its 3x3 area of effect. Its high mass also makes it a good buffer for temperature fluctuations (especially if you choose a high heat capacity material) but the use cases for that are rare.

Secondly, the Heat Capacity and Thermal Conductivity stats given in the tooltips don't depend on the mass of the object. The mass of an object is factored in later.

So to get an object's heat capacity multiply its primary element's heat capacity by the number of grams and if I remember this right, for buildings multiply it by 0.2 because that is a secret multiplier the game does for buildings.

[Craigjw]

11 hours ago, Sevio said:

@Craigjw

A drywall won't conduct heat with anything but the gas/liquid that is in front of it, so its conductivity doesn't matter all that much. For tempshift plates, conductivity is the most important statistic for how quickly it will equalize its 3x3 area of effect. Its high mass also makes it a good buffer for temperature fluctuations (especially if you choose a high heat capacity material) but the use cases for that are rare.

Secondly, the Heat Capacity and Thermal Conductivity stats given in the tooltips don't depend on the mass of the object. The mass of an object is factored in later.

So to get an object's heat capacity multiply its primary element's heat capacity by the number of grams and if I remember this right, for buildings multiply it by 0.2 because that is a secret multiplier the game does for buildings.

Nice answer, thanks. That explains it very well.

[AndreyKl]

On ‎8‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 7:35 PM, Sevio said:

For tempshift plates, conductivity is the most important statistic for how quickly it will equalize its 3x3 area of effect. Its high mass also makes it a good buffer for temperature fluctuations (especially if you choose a high heat capacity material) but the use cases for that are rare.

Can someone please explain how temp shift plates made from ceramic or abbysalite will work? Will it slow down heat exchange? Lets say I put ceramic temp shift plates behind turbine, will it affect temperature exchange in any way or will it sit there and do nothing?

I assume it going to be either a buffer with low conductivity or won't work at all.

[FutureJohny]

2 minutes ago, AndreyKl said:

 

Can someone please explain how temp shift plates made from ceramic or abbysalite will work? Will it slow down heat exchange? Lets say I put ceramic temp shift plates behind turbine, will it affect temperature exchange in any way or will it sit there and do nothing?

I haven't tested them myself, but some ocasionally I see someone saying they slow heat distribution. Even though such thing makes no sense in real life, I'm not ruling it out for ONI physics.

I'll test it once I get to the game today.

[Neotuck]

6 minutes ago, AndreyKl said:

 

Can someone please explain how temp shift plates made from ceramic or abbysalite will work? Will it slow down heat exchange? Lets say I put ceramic temp shift plates behind turbine, will it affect temperature exchange in any way or will it sit there and do nothing?

It will slow down heat transfer but not stop it

However heat will still transfer between liquids and solids the same rate so making temp shift plates to slow it down is pointless

Best thing is to view temp shift plates as a way to distribute heat evenly though a room and help transfer heat in and out of solid tiles