blash365 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Is it a thing that wheeze worts get destroyed when they are on high temperatures? I have a savegame where my stale wheeze wort sits at 300°C. While still in pause, i can select the wheeze wort (it is already invisible) and when i unpause the plant is automatically unplanted. However no seed is dropped. I always assumed wheeze worts were indestructable. Did i stumble across a bug or is this a thing? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_D Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I noticed the same too. In my recent game, when I reached the surface, one of the cold WW biomes was next to this very hot regolith/mafic rock. I assume the wheeze wort spammed next to a pool of water that became super hot steam. I saw the WW all yellow, being cooked by the steam. On a reload the WW was gone. Only the steam was left. As a funny note, the plants by the elevator became nafta due to being in contact with the remnants of the meteor impacts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1069945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UhE1 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Wheezeworts have a temperature range which they will work in before becoming inactive/yellow. I would assume that there is a buffer temperature range before they 'pop' however I have not noticed in my testing. In debug mode I have surrounded the WWs in extremely high and extremely low temperatures and they just turn yellow, but if I load a save where they are yellowd they pop. TLDR: wheezeworts seem indestructible, but will die if outside their temperature range and you load the save. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1069983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 This is a very old bug which has returned - I posted this in the bug tracker maybe 7-8 months back. It was fixed for a long time, but seems to have reared it's head again. *edit* found it Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1069988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: This is a very old bug which has returned - I posted this in the bug tracker maybe 7-8 months back. It was fixed for a long time, but seems to have reared it's head again. This is exactly what happened to me. Thanks for the link. Lost half a day of progress because of this glitch.:( Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Hmm I'm afraid to load my save now.. I have a bunch of wheezies cooling down my NG geysers, and I went a bit overboard with the number of them.. so now they're all sitting at -60 or whatever is the lower limit.. if I load, they might pop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 NG geysers should be outputting NG @150°C. So no danger for wheezes (the problem starts around 190°C). Feel free to load. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 14 hours ago, blash365 said: Is it a thing that wheeze worts get destroyed when they are on high temperatures? I have a savegame where my stale wheeze wort sits at 300°C. While still in pause, i can select the wheeze wort (it is already invisible) and when i unpause the plant is automatically unplanted. However no seed is dropped. I always assumed wheeze worts were indestructable. Did i stumble across a bug or is this a thing? It's a shame things don't catch fire, at 300C, do you really expect anything organic to survive such temperatures? It sounds like the WW's being indestructible was the bug, not the converse. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 53 minutes ago, Craigjw said: It's a shame things don't catch fire, at 300C, do you really expect anything organic to survive such temperatures? It sounds like the WW's being indestructible was the bug, not the converse. It's an alien lifeform so who knows how much temperature they can take. They dont reproduce and drift around in space encountering various temperatures. So, there has to be some kind of resilience inside them. A bug that only occurs when you dont load a game but works as intended when you load a game? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGCat Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Every plant will burn to death at 300°. All fine so far? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, DustFireSky said: Every plant will burn to death at 300° https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_adaptationshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrophyte Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGCat Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 And now ? Can a plant survive 300° C. NO, It's not the point, that it will or will not burn. The plant can't survive this temperatures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There are several Australian trees that van regrow after a bushfire nps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blash365 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Please also note that not only the plant is destroyed, but also the seed. And seeds are known to be very resilient. Even those we know on planet earth. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/jun/16/thisweekssciencequestions1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 You guys may want to consider that dupes can also skip through 1500°C magma and suffer a little heatstroke... Quit applying your earth based observations to ONI, you nerds Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Lifegrow said: You guys may want to consider that dupes can also skip through 1500°C magma and suffer a little heatstroke... Quit applying your earth based observations to ONI, you nerds Man + Lava = HeatStroke more or less here as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifegrow Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, malloc said: Man + Lava = HeatStroke more or less here as well. Hell no, this guy was hit by a blob of lava and it seared stone into his leg. Our dupes can WADE through lava without any immediate issues Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I know, just trying to lighten the mood. Just keep that beard away from the lava and all will be well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albryant Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 @Lifegrow without his beard?!? Noooooooo!!!! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/94129-wheeze-worts-being-destroyed-at-high-temperatures/#findComment-1070254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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