Denisetwin Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 So I've never had this problem before since I was using the Fert Makers to make NG. Now that is nerfed, I just ran out of fertilizer and realized I needed the fertilizer makers for something other than NG. I don't want to waste my PH20 however, so I only want to build enough to meet demand. How many Fertilizer Makers are needed to sustain X number of blossom plants? thanks! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 None, blossoms only need water and light Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Then from a different direction, how much fertilizer would it take to keep 20 plants with "Farmers Touch" buff active? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy-Anemic Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 You don't need to worry about wasting Polluted Water on them. In one of my experimental sewage disposal rooms only two kept pumping out a very good amount of fertilizer without putting a dent in my sewage generation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I should clarify, these Blossoms are in a greenhouse and I have a farmer putting "Farmers Touch" on them and I ran out of fertilizer. So, how many Fertilizer Makers are needed? I couldn't figure it out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoroy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 One plant needs 5Kg of ferts per cycles. One fertilizer maker as an output of 72Kg(was like that in CU preview) per cycle. So With one fert maker you have enough for a total of 14 plants. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, leoroy said: One plant needs 5Kg of ferts per cycles. One fertilizer maker as an output of 72Kg(was like that in CU preview) per cycle. So With one fert maker you have enough for a total of 14 plants. Assuming you can keep it well stocked with dirt and phosphorite every cycle Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: Assuming you can keep it well stocked with dirt and phosphorite every cycle The only option seems to be Fish pooping polluted dirt, with Puff pooping Slime, that you turn into algae. Doesn't seem to require that many critters for it to be a self supporting system. I don't see how to create PW, in order to use a sieve to create pDirt, though while the map has PW that is another option. Maybe if you have a milliom Petroloim/NG Generators and/or have 300 dupes so lavatory, showers and sink can create enough PW for a sieve based system. I always connect power generators to smart batteries and I just can't make my base use all that much energy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Neotuck said: 4 hours ago, leoroy said: One plant needs 5Kg of ferts per cycles. One fertilizer maker as an output of 72Kg(was like that in CU preview) per cycle. So With one fert maker you have enough for a total of 14 plants. Assuming you can keep it well stocked with dirt and phosphorite every cycle And it needs 39 kg of dirt, 15,6 kg of phosphorite and 23,4 kg of PW per cycle. One lavatory with 4 dupes will produce enough extra PW per cycle for one fertiliser maker. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Miravlix said: The only option seems to be Fish pooping polluted dirt, with Puff pooping Slime, that you turn into algae. Doesn't seem to require that many critters for it to be a self supporting system. I don't see how to create PW, in order to use a sieve to create pDirt, though while the map has PW that is another option. Maybe if you have a milliom Petroloim/NG Generators and/or have 300 dupes so lavatory, showers and sink can create enough PW for a sieve based system. I always connect power generators to smart batteries and I just can't make my base use all that much energy. Link them to a small battery and a clock automation and Burn The energy. The issue is not how to use The Power but rather than how to get The gas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackblac Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Miravlix said: I don't see how to create PW, in order to use a sieve to create pDirt, though while the map has PW that is another option. You can create polluted water by surrounding regular water on 3 sides with polluted water. Easiest way to do this is a + sign formation. You slowly drip pwater from the sides and pure water from top. Keep polluted water at the lower part of the + sign and the middle part is where water turns to polluted water Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jackblac said: You can create polluted water by surrounding regular water on 3 sides with polluted water. Easiest way to do this is a + sign formation. You slowly drip pwater from the sides and pure water from top. Keep polluted water at the lower part of the + sign and the middle part is where water turns to polluted water That got "fixed" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1054999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoroy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Miravlix said: The only option seems to be Fish pooping polluted dirt, with Puff pooping Slime, that you turn into algae. Doesn't seem to require that many critters for it to be a self supporting system. I don't see how to create PW, in order to use a sieve to create pDirt, though while the map has PW that is another option. Maybe if you have a milliom Petroloim/NG Generators and/or have 300 dupes so lavatory, showers and sink can create enough PW for a sieve based system. I always connect power generators to smart batteries and I just can't make my base use all that much energy. Well, I do use a sieve as dirt source. I have one and half fert synth (one running half the time) and I only need to process a bit more than 1Kg/s of PH2O to have enough dirt. If you have a slush geyser it's super easy to get this amount. Phosphorite isn't a problem, just mine some and get some dreckos. Here's my little setup. Not 100% automated yet, but once the dirt and phosphorite compactors are filled it can run for many cycles without management. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Miravlix said: I don't see how to create PW, in order to use a sieve to create pDirt, though while the map has PW that is another option. There are other options for making PW If you produce a lot of CO2 use a carbon skimmer If you ranch pufts use an algae distiller Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miravlix Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I have a massive puff farm and it creates next to nothing in PW, the fertilizer is eating most of it and the 3 drops left can't even run a single sieve. Also it's really hard to create PO to run the farm, you are going to end up using the PW to create PO. To create enough dirt with a sieve you need many sieves, because one sieve creates so little, just one sieve is quite a lot of PW pr. cycle you need to generate for a self sustaining system. At least without stupid stuff like creating energy and cooking the asteroid, without using the power. My asteroid has ZERO free CO2, it's all getting converted with a skimmer and it makes no difference in creating enough, can't even supply half a sieve pr. cycle. I'm using NGG and Coal, so I create CO2 and PW. Not until I started a fish farm did I generate enough pdirt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 That's why I prefer to feed my pufts morb farts so I don't have diminishing returns with PW About 4 morbs per puft works fine Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 48 minutes ago, leoroy said: Well, I do use a sieve as dirt source. I have one and half fert synth (one running half the time) and I only need to process a bit more than 1Kg/s of PH2O to have enough dirt. If you have a slush geyser it's super easy to get this amount. Phosphorite isn't a problem, just mine some and get some dreckos. Here's my little setup. Not 100% automated yet, but once the dirt and phosphorite compactors are filled it can run for many cycles without management. This egg is going to space i guess Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoroy Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 hahaha yeah, first attempt to get some living hatches on the surface Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 14 hours ago, leoroy said: One plant needs 5Kg of ferts per cycles. One fertilizer maker as an output of 72Kg(was like that in CU preview) per cycle. So With one fert maker you have enough for a total of 14 plants. Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to know Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/92507-how-many-fert-makers-to-each-blossom-plot/#findComment-1055107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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