SackMaggie Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 This idea is not mine but since I saw this picture in this thread I always use this method since then. This picture is belong to @Saturnus from @Lifegrow said. This is what it look like Loop back at the top is to prevent gas vent over pressure. You can make modify that pipe what ever you want (Like just pump it to space if it was not gas you want). Spoiler A trick to make this work is have valve that set to 1 or whatever you like. This will prevent other gas come into inner loop and other gas will pass bridge and go to another loop and the same thing repeat. once you set all valve you will need to pump just 1 type of gas in to main pipe it will fill inner loop then stop and pump another type of gas into main pipe again (This step you will need a gas filter to make sure nothings will go wrong) Or you will need two sets of this mechanical filter and merge output together and hey It's 1000 g/s Spoiler And don't pipe 1000 g of gas because extra gas will ruin your pipe Spoiler Once you fill inner loop with gas you want then continue to another gas and repeat In action Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Mechanical filters are crucial to my spom builds Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 They are really useful in most applications. But If power isnt an issue for you then yeah Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vovik Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Ow,someone raised mechanical filters theme again! The most useful mechanics of filtering by now, i usually make a single large filter room for separating gases i need to remove from anywhere. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, vovik said: Ow,someone raised mechanical filters theme again! The most useful mechanics of filtering by now, i usually make a single large filter room for separating gases i need to remove from anywhere. Share your secretsz! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avc15 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 the only downside to mechanical filters is they start to go absolutely haywire if either output path backs up. Whereas filters work just fine when either output becomes blocked. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 There is another detail. You want an entry valve of 999 to keep a single unit of the filtered gas from getting by. But you've got it on a loop and just off one pump so it isn't really important. If you had full packets going in you might see it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokimeetz Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 so the function is blocking the individual pipes with gas so that only 1 type of gas can pass? i run my filters by using pipe detectors and shutoffs. 10w of power isnt something worth mentioning at least it seems easier to understand :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1040715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_D Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Spoiler On 6/2/2018 at 4:35 AM, SackMaggie said: This idea is not mine but since I saw this picture in this thread I always use this method since then. This picture is belong to @Saturnus from @Lifegrow said. This is what it look like Loop back at the top is to prevent gas vent over pressure. You can make modify that pipe what ever you want (Like just pump it to space if it was not gas you want). Hide contents A trick to make this work is have valve that set to 1 or whatever you like. This will prevent other gas come into inner loop and other gas will pass bridge and go to another loop and the same thing repeat. once you set all valve you will need to pump just 1 type of gas in to main pipe it will fill inner loop then stop and pump another type of gas into main pipe again (This step you will need a gas filter to make sure nothings will go wrong) Hide contents And don't pipe 1000 g of gas because extra gas will ruin your pipe Hide contents Once you fill inner loop with gas you want then continue to another gas and repeat In action Hide contents Yes, mechanical gas filters are the "bee knees". Thanks to the OP's referenced forum users for the idea. This is one of the first buildings I make once the proper technology is researched. The Mechanical Gas Storage Room: Spoiler I like your design as it is slightly more compact than the standard version. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher-7 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 @Alex_D I assume the liquid is there so you can over pressurize the tiny rooms storing the gas? What liquid did you use, and do you ever find that over pressurization method to fail? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 For the liquid, depends on temp but water works fine, otherwise oil and petrol are recommended frequently as well. This method will only fail if they specifically patch the vent to "flood" if liquid is in its cell instead of measuring the quantity of it, otherwise just keep your pressure at the vent below 2kg and the liquid spread evenly across the floor and it wont fail. Personally speaking there is no greater space efficient setup than the one @Alex_D shared. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 2.6.2018 at 8:18 PM, Hokimeetz said: i run my filters by using pipe detectors and shutoffs. 10w of power isnt something worth mentioning at least it seems easier to understand :/ Come on ppl, please share some screenies for noobs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokimeetz Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Oozinator said: Come on ppl, please share some screenies for noobs. at least thats the thread i learned about these Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hokimeetz said: at least thats the thread i learned about these Ty, i know that. I would like to see, how ppl use it in their bases, perhaps i find something interesting. I play most times survival, without debug and i tend to use electrical filters, because energy is no problem and setup of mechanical filters is more dupe based work. Sure no heat is nice, but cooling is no problem too.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Kabrute said: For the liquid, depends on temp but water works fine, otherwise oil and petrol are recommended frequently as well. This method will only fail if they specifically patch the vent to "flood" if liquid is in its cell instead of measuring the quantity of it, otherwise just keep your pressure at the vent below 2kg and the liquid spread evenly across the floor and it wont fail. Personally speaking there is no greater space efficient setup than the one @Alex_D shared. I just had my first room fail, my 10w gas pipe sensor failed because one output blocked and that sent three types of gas into my six tile tiny gas room that previously held about 30kg of carbon dioxide. The water that was in front of both of the vents disappeared, instantly overpressurizing them. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMaggie Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Denisetwin said: I just had my first room fail, my 10w gas pipe sensor failed because one output blocked and that sent three types of gas into my six tile tiny gas room that previously held about 30kg of carbon dioxide. The water that was in front of both of the vents disappeared, instantly overpressurizing them. Do it like this. water + (vent+water in front) + water water is more than 100 g and less than 2 kg for each tile 100 g < X < 2 Kg Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Denisetwin said: I just had my first room fail, my 10w gas pipe sensor failed because one output blocked and that sent three types of gas into my six tile tiny gas room that previously held about 30kg of carbon dioxide. The water that was in front of both of the vents disappeared, instantly overpressurizing them. You used the wrong filtration type, your filters failed causing the subsequent cascade failure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/91309-gas-filter-with-0-power-consumption/#findComment-1041637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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