fleranon Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It seems kinda wrong to write this, but I need a efficient way to mass kill hatches my hatch farm has around 40-50 individuals and I farm them for coal and meat. They lay so many eggs that I dont bother incubating them with the machine, i just storage them in a freezer until they are born naturally. Its a real pain to kill them the old fashioned way, especially stone hatches with their 200 hp. My design for a hatch drowning-butchery (weight plate and mechanized airlocks with water beneath it) doesnt seem to work, the hatchlings just jump over the open doors (bug?). Does anyone has another idea how to drown hatches efficiently? Poor things. now i feel bad for them. edit: hatchlings are not jumping in water so it seems. they just stay on the one block and do not move. otherwise the solution would be much simpler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 do the eggs not hatch under water? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleranon Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 I thought eggs stay at 100% if the right conditions for a birth are not met (they dont get born IN the freezer for example), but I'm not sure actually o.0 I'll test this right now mhm...but how to drop the eggs in a watertank? I dont want any dupes to be involved in the process Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crypticorb Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Instead of dropping the hatches, why not use a door sequence to move the water UP, and flood the ranch? Have the ranch floor made of mesh tiles, a 4-5 door sequence below as wide as the ranch, and when it's execution time, cycle the doors to drown the little meat sacks. I'd recommend not using pH2O, as it will rot the food even submersed. Side topic, do automated sweepers work on foodstuffs like meat and sleet wheat? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 22 minutes ago, crypticorb said: Side topic, do automated sweepers work on foodstuffs like meat and sleet wheat? they work on any object as long as they are in range of something that uses it (you can supply electric grills with them for example) 37 minutes ago, fleranon said: mhm...but how to drop the eggs in a watertank? I dont want any dupes to be involved in the process if you interrupt the power to a sweeper when it is in mid sweep of an object it will drop the item. I built a simple automation that did this to feed hatches before Ranch MK1 came out Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleranon Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Thanks guys. this info is extremely useful neotuck. and Crypticorb, this is genius! Flooding the room from below. xD I'll call the room "the crypticorb Doom-Room" in your honor Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So that means meat is better than eggs for food? I havn't checked the calories yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: So that means meat is better than eggs for food? I havn't checked the calories yet. It is if you cook it with pincha Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleranon Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 okay, may I present: "the crypticorb Doom-Room"! It is beautiful. Works flawlessly: The critter triggers the trap with the weight plate. The room gets flooded for 30 seconds and simultaneously the sweeper is activated to pick up the meat and send it to the freezer room. Additionally I installed a pump so the room is vacuumized - no air bubbles to save the hatches. 15 minutes ago, 0xFADE said: So that means meat is better than eggs for food? I havn't checked the calories yet. Barbeque has a food quality of 5 whereas omelette has a merely 2. That means your dupes are double as happy while eating. and omelettes have 2800 kalories, barbeque has 4000. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakku Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Dupes can also stand steadily on the opened horizonal door. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1030987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnis Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 How are the numbers? How much meat / egg? How long incubation / egg? I realise the difference between omelett 2800kcal vs barbeque 4000 kcal, but are you paying incubator Watts? Waiting 20 cycles to mature or how are you making.. The meat? Making a doorpump butchery is easy. How are you getting the hatches to the butchery? They are born and butchered at birth? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scientas Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 This is the equivalent of hatch veal... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleranon Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 11 hours ago, Carnis said: How are the numbers? How much meat / egg? How long incubation / egg? I realise the difference between omelett 2800kcal vs barbeque 4000 kcal, but are you paying incubator Watts? Waiting 20 cycles to mature or how are you making.. The meat? Making a doorpump butchery is easy. How are you getting the hatches to the butchery? They are born and butchered at birth? i transport the eggs automatically from my stables via rails and they get put into a unpowered freezer inside the butchery. All my farms (100+ creatures) deliver a steady stream of eggs, perhaps 5-10 per day. as soon as the freezer is full I just unload it with a click. While the eggs incubate inside the fridge and stay at 100% percent, as soon as I unload the fridge half a dozen critters spring to life, to meet their immediate fate. Then the meat gets transported automatically to my vacuum room. God, I love automation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monster3d2015 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Do your dupes put them in the fridge or does your auto sweeper? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 The sweeper does.. it's a beautiful design, although I think you should use clean water, not polluted water to drown those little buggers. I take it that baby hatches produce just as much meat as full grown ones? What are you feeding them on your ranch? sage hatches that eat your fertiliser from your fertiliser maker / ng power plant? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Killing baby hatches, you monster. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Cooking that lovely tender baby hatch meat.. mhh BBQ... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Wouldn't it be easier to just slaughter shine bugs? At least you can lure them into a room, flood it, and collect the meat. Or pacu! Just put them in a vat of boiling oil! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Do shinebugs now drop meat in ranching mk2? in the mk1 version they didn't drop meat afaik. As for pacu's, there's another thread out there, where I suggested using a same setup as this hatch butchery, but with reverse automation for the doors. Normally they are open, until it's time to butcher them pacu's, then they open and leave them all on mesh tile dry land. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, suicide commando said: Do shinebugs now drop meat in ranching mk2? in the mk1 version they didn't drop meat afaik. As for pacu's, there's another thread out there, where I suggested using a same setup as this hatch butchery, but with reverse automation for the doors. Normally they are open, until it's time to butcher them pacu's, then they open and leave them all on mesh tile dry land. Pacu don't die if left stranded on land...for some...reason. Just throw them in a vat of liquid phosphorus. Or better yet, boil them in oil. Make some deep fried pineapple: Spoiler Oops, wrong photo...where is it? Aha! Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicSandwich Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, watermelen671 said: Pacu don't die if left stranded on land...for some...reason. Just throw them in a vat of liquid phosphorus. Or better yet, boil them in oil. Make some deep fried pineapple: Reveal hidden contents Oops, wrong photo...where is it? Aha! Hide contents Or sacrifice them to the magma gods Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Now you're making me wonder what will happen if you flash freeze all the water into ice tiles, with Pacu's swimming in them... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BionicSandwich Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, suicide commando said: Now you're making me wonder what will happen if you flash freeze all the water into ice tiles, with Pacu's swimming in them... Fish-sicles! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watermelen671 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, suicide commando said: Now you're making me wonder what will happen if you flash freeze all the water into ice tiles, with Pacu's swimming in them... Depends on the type of Pacu. Couldn't get it to freeze. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroning Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 How do you control number if critters at stables? What do you do when some of it die of age? (If all egges moves away automatically you will have no replacement) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90299-hatch-butchery/#findComment-1031242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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