Oni Noob Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I thought using Ranching is a stable source of food but its not. I got 8 duplicants and 32 slickster to support them using eggs but unfortunately grooming them all take forever even I got 2 duplicants dedicated for ranching alone. 1 Cycle is not enough to groom them all that cause them be unhappy and not produce egg. :(( This is just an FYI to everyone Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 My base at 200 cycles has a ranch of 7 hatches and a garden with 6 bristle blooms and 12 mushrooms. I'm currently producing about double the calories my 12 dupes are eating. So.. IDK. I think ranching for food works just fine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
travaldofan Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 make more ranchers only two for 32slickster? that is too much i like one ranching room(96tile) one rancher. But he only rancher not seasoned Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, travaldofan said: make more ranchers only two for 32slickster? that is too much i like one ranching room(96tile) one rancher. But he only rancher not seasoned Well it just shows the Ranching for food is not sustainable enough for you to stop farming. They should make Ranching more desirable Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolthulhu Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Ranching wastes more time if the dupe can't breathe and takes regular breaks in the middle of grooming. Suit up your rancher. Make sure all the slicksters are nearby. Shape of stable doesn't matter, so you can make a tiny room at the bottom where all critters sit on each other, as long as the room itself has 12 tiles per slickster. A properly managed critter produces about 200 kcal/cycle (in omelettes). This is lower than a single unboosted berry (333kcal/cycle) and takes way more dupe time, so the only real gain here is that you don't need to spend tons of cool water or dirt on just keeping the colony alive. 1 minute ago, Oni Noob said: Well it just shows the Ranching for food is not sustainable enough for you to stop farming. They should make Ranching more desirable If ranching was so good that the players were avoiding farming, it would be a good sign that balance is terrible. Ranching already gives useful resources that aren't food, so it should be worse than farming at making food. The only buffs it really needs are: Less critters needed for same effect (more consumption per critter, more eggs per critter) to save on processing Some non-horrible way to herd pufts. Lures are horrible. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I've found lately that having a variety of food sources works out for the best. Only berries? Gonna have a hard time keeping water around. Only shrooms? Better have a good way of getting more slime. The point I'm making is that ranching augments farming by adding a food source as a byproduct of keeping critters around. Need slime for your 'shrooms? Then you're gonna need pufts. Previously that was the only reason to have them around. Now they ALSO lay eggs? Bonus!!! .. and Yes, Coolthulu, herding pufts sucks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkunkMaster Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Ranching is awesome. 1. Critters don't care much about temps, 2. They produce products other then food. 3. they eat resources you rather wanna get rid of anyway. 4. Eggs have higher quality then gristle berry & fried shrooms. Hatches keep coal gens running and eat what ever you give them, slicksters give you oil and remove Co2. The eggs here and there are a very nice addition, but not the main reason to get them only partly the reason. My only concern about ranching is that i'm not able to set eggs to be hatched on a continuing basis. Would be really nice if incubators worked the same as all other production apparatus with a queue and all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Oni Noob said: Well it just shows the Ranching for food is not sustainable enough for you to stop farming. They should make Ranching more desirable they nerfed it in test build, because eating eggs for days is very broken Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni Noob Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, landromat said: they nerfed it in test build, because eating eggs for days is very broken But I think there is a bug to slickster their not eating properly Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Oni Noob said: But I think there is a bug to slickster their not eating properly yep. They're always starving Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Something to keep in mind is that we only have half the Ranching Update. This is Mk1. Mk2 is coming soon to an asteroid near you. Most likely there will be new critters being added, like the Volgas rodents, Pacu fish, and Shock Wurm hostile insect that have been in the game files for a long time but not yet implemented. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
landromat Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I hope for agressive Fauna, so we can fight not only overcrowded hatches Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Oni Noob said: Well it just shows the Ranching for food is not sustainable enough for you to stop farming. They should make Ranching more desirable No, farming is ok and food meta enough for my taste.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1021990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabrute Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 free range pepper bread is my new meta Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1022021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flydo Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 4 hours ago, KittenIsAGeek said: I've found lately that having a variety of food sources works out for the best. Only berries? Gonna have a hard time keeping water around. Only shrooms? Better have a good way of getting more slime. The point I'm making is that ranching augments farming by adding a food source as a byproduct of keeping critters around. Need slime for your 'shrooms? Then you're gonna need pufts. Previously that was the only reason to have them around. Now they ALSO lay eggs? Bonus!!! Murphy's law, if one thing can gone wrong, it will so multiply solution make better change of survive, in case of trouble you could solve the problem and survive with the other food 3 hours ago, SkunkMaster said: 1. Critters don't care much about temps Not anymore, but i'm sur this will coming back and you need to heating up the slickster room (they will die under 35°C just before the ranching upgrade, dev just shut down this parameter to let us test ranching 1 hour ago, landromat said: yep. They're always starving Yeah cause they eat gas and not from feeder, need to try with solid co2 or co2 in bottle to see what happen 7 minutes ago, Kabrute said: free range pepper bread is my new meta Pepper bread sure will be a very good solution since it exist Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1022027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, Kabrute said: free range pepper bread is my new meta Mine too No planter box / hydrotile used. Stuffed berrys are sometimes on the card too and mushrooms for ever. Dupes got tired about stockpiling rotten shrooms and they start to dig into the science of fermenting mushrooms for psychedelic drugs. Quote from the science group: "There must be a way, to fly to the stars" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89341-ranching-for-food-is-bad-idea/#findComment-1022028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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