Got any AETN blueprints?

[PhailRaptor]

Ended up getting a really nice map spawn.  Both of my Steam Geysers are right next to each other, and straight down from them is one of the more usable AETN ruins.  So I figure putting an Oxygen factory right between them is a fantastic use of space.  Hoping I can also get some water cooling on the side for Blossoms, but we'll see how that goes.

It's also my first time I've not had some other critical problem when I uncover an AETN, so I don't know the particulars of using them, and I'd love to see some blueprints.

[travaldofan]

Just now, PhailRaptor said:

Ended up getting a really nice map spawn.  Both of my Steam Geysers are right next to each other, and straight down from them is one of the more usable AETN ruins.  So I figure putting an Oxygen factory right between them is a fantastic use of space.  Hoping I can also get some water cooling on the side for Blossoms, but we'll see how that goes.

It's also my first time I've not had some other critical problem when I uncover an AETN, so I don't know the particulars of using them, and I'd love to see some blueprints.

giff map seed pls, i wanna see it

[Neotuck]

This is a setup I used to supply my sleet wheat greenhouses with 5C water and -150C O2

[PhailRaptor]

4 minutes ago, travaldofan said:

giff map seed pls, i wanna see it

Seed is 368860462.  Both Steam Geysers are up and to the left, not far from the edge of the Starter Biome.  AETN is just outside the bottom left of the Starter Biome.

[travaldofan]

this my system and it is very efficient, i build it in debug mode, so lucky that two steam geyser is so close to each other! i never had those  

but before they run on hydrogen gen u need to run electrolyzer atleast 50 cycle hydrogen tank need atleast 15KG per tile after that just forget it, don't forget to build AETN room gas pump and gas pipes with abyssalite

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[PhailRaptor]

8 hours ago, Neotuck said:

This is a setup I used to supply my sleet wheat greenhouses with 5C water and -150C O2

*screenshots*

Interesting...  so you're cooling the oxygen directly?  Wouldn't you get more total cooling by filling the room with Hydrogen, or is that just specific to Wheezeworts due to their absorb/release mechanic?

[Kuirem]

This has to do with Heat Capacity of gases rather than the absorb/release.

Wheezeworts removes °C of gases while AETN removes W. So with Wheezeworts you will get more W if you use a high heat capacity gas and Hydrogen has the highest value (actually Steam has more but it's too hot for Wheezeworts to handle).

Well on top of that Hydrogen also high Thermal Conductivity so it's a win-win in a cooling system.

[PickPay]

Here's my oxygen production room for 10 Dupes (self powered) :

The Power station allows the H. Gen to produce 1200W which is more than enough for the room (800W was just too short). The Tempshift plates are made of Wolframite. Smart battery to save Hydrogen. Manual Gen to kickstart it.

By the way the AETN consumes 10g/s.

[PhailRaptor]

On 3/1/2018 at 3:29 PM, Neotuck said:

Hate to drudge this up again, but what's the point of the Hydrosensor and Liquid Shut-off?

[Neotuck]

7 minutes ago, PhailRaptor said:

Hate to drudge this up again, but what's the point of the Hydrosensor and Liquid Shut-off?

The pump runs the water to the sleet wheat greenhouse, the hydrosensor turns on the liquid shut-off when the water gets too low. Filling it back up again with warm water to be cooled down to 5C

[Lutzkhie]

i always wonder, which is more reliable when cooling hydrogen tanks, higher gas pressure of lower gas pressure?

[Kuirem]

15 minutes ago, Lutzkhie said:

i always wonder, which is more reliable when cooling hydrogen tanks, higher gas pressure of lower gas pressure?

I would say higher gas pressure. Although it takes more time to start the cooling system (because you have a lot more to cool down) it will have a better inertia so if the system has a hiccup you have more time to figure out what's wrong.

Of course this can be reproduced or even improved by using cold/heat "storage", i.e. resources with high Heat Capacity such as Polluted Water or Crude Oil.

[Lutzkhie]

yeah, thanks for that, i always got my hydrogen at 2k below
 

[smithdl]

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 3:29 PM, Neotuck said:

This is a setup I used to supply my sleet wheat greenhouses with 5C water and -150C O2

So, I don't understand how this cools the water.  I have always tried to fill my AETN Chamber with hydrogen and then pump it to my water holding tank and run a radiator through the water. Are you saying it is more efficient to just build a tank next to the AETN and it will cool it?

I have always used the radiator system because it allows me to control the coolant. (I cool the water to where I want and then stop the flow of coolant.)  

[PhailRaptor]

I must agree, I attempted to build Neotuck's cooler, and my results were....  underwhelming.  Working on just the O2, not even attempting to work on the water.

[Neotuck]

Just now, smithdl said:

So, I don't understand how this cools the water.  I have always tried to fill my AETN Chamber with hydrogen and then pump it to my water holding tank and run a radiator through the water. Are you saying it is more efficient to just build a tank next to the AETN and it will cool it?

there are two mech airlocks made with wolframite that is automated with a temp sensor in the water.  When the water is too warm the doors close allowing heat to transfer to the AETN.  Once the water is cold enough the doors open creating a vacuum and perfect insulator.

The hydro sensor controls the shutoff valve so warm water flows in evenly 

1 minute ago, PhailRaptor said:

I must agree, I attempted to build Neotuck's cooler, and my results were....  underwhelming.  Working on just the O2, not even attempting to work on the water.

what happened?

[PhailRaptor]

1 minute ago, Neotuck said:

what happened?

At first the AETN began cooling the room, but pretty quickly after that it started heating up again.  On thermal overlay, the room was between yellow and orange.

Update occurred a few days later, abandoned the seed.

[Neotuck]

1 minute ago, PhailRaptor said:

At first the AETN began cooling the room, but pretty quickly after that it started heating up again.  On thermal overlay, the room was between yellow and orange.

Update occurred a few days later, abandoned the seed.

When I did it I let the O2 in the AETN cool down to -150 ish before I started pumping it to my wheat farm.  Fresh O2 went though a few regulators at my O2 plant before reaching the AETN.  And the water came from a water sieve and 2 aqua tuners so it was around 14C by the time it reached the tank.

[PhailRaptor]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

When I did it I let the O2 in the AETN cool down to -150 ish before I started pumping it to my wheat farm.  Fresh O2 went though a few regulators at my O2 plant before reaching the AETN.  And the water came from a water sieve and 2 aqua tuners so it was around 14C by the time it reached the tank.

That....  was critical information that was not disclosed in your initial post...    I thought this would work on fresh O2 from Electrolyzers.  That...  explains things.

[Neotuck]

Just now, PhailRaptor said:

That....  was critical information that was not disclosed in your initial post...    I thought this would work on fresh O2 from Electrolyzers.  That...  explains things.

a mistake on my part...  my bad

[Oni Noob]

On 3/1/2018 at 3:29 PM, Neotuck said:

This is a setup I used to supply my sleet wheat greenhouses with 5C water and -150C O2

Dude whats the purpose of the door in the middle and when it is closing? you close it when you want to transfer coldness to the other room?

[Neotuck]

Just now, Oni Noob said:

Dude whats the purpose of the door in the middle and when it is closing? you close it when you want to transfer coldness to the other room?

check my reply to @smithdl

[TheExceed]

This is what I use. Gas shutoff enabled via thermo sensor to keep my aetn at around 65F