Scrimbles Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 It feels kind of crappy abandoning her surf board like 3 days in, and since none of the islands are really unique or game changing to find, spending most of your time exploring early is a waste, which I assume is the reason she is a character in the first place. So instead of letting her surf board perks go to waste, how about giving her some upgrades for it? Like a sailing board, or a battle board that hurts things when you run into things or something like that (quackering ram hype). Make her a surf board specialist, with a board for every occasion, I don't know. People would prolly stop complaining about her if ya did. Just an idea wow look at me, not trash talking Shipwrecked for once. See I'm not always in a bad mood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeilerderWelten Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Ogrecakes said: It feels kind of crappy abandoning her surf board like 3 days in, and since none of the islands are really unique or game changing to find, spending most of your time exploring early is a waste, which I assume is the reason she is a character in the first place. So instead of letting her surf board perks go to waste, how about giving her some upgrades for it? Like a sailing board, or a battle board that hurts things when you run into things or something like that (quackering ram hype). Make her a surf board specialist, with a board for every occasion, I don't know. People would prolly stop complaining about her if ya did. Just an idea wow look atme, not trash talking Shipwrecked for once. See I'm not always in a bad mood You are completely right Ogrecakes! Walanis Sailboard - she should get the ability to craft a better mid/late game board that has a sail slot - it can be combined with all sails (except iron wind) - that would make her board the fastest thing in the sea and players could choose if they want to have: staying power - Armored Boat speed - Sail Surfboard storrage - Cargo Boat - the speed would actually be a good reason to use her, even on day 100+ - Sailboard + Feather Sail + wave riding = FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttbutt Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 A little off topic, but it's about Walani. Why does Woodlegs have the perk of never drowning, but Walani doesnt? She's a surfer, and her board is a lot weaker health wise compared to the Sea Legs. Back on topic, I think it's an okay idea. I wouldn't really upgrade the board because by the time you have a row boat, there isn't a reason to use the board, but maybe making it upgradable might change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuitting Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Don't forget Walani's surfboard has 2 unique advantages other boats do not have. 1) It can surf big waves which is a big deal during hurricane season. 2) It restores one sanity per wave surf which is a big deal when you are travelling across the map. 3) She can hold items in her hand such as torches while surfing which you cannot do with other boats. So imagine for a minute you had a boat attachment which allowed you to ride big waves and gain sanity from riding all waves... well that is what is permanently attached to Walani's surfboard so it isn't such a bad deal for many situations. This allows Walani to comfortably surf through the entire hurricane season and eat nothing but raw seaweed while still maintaining sanity. Of course there is still going to be situations you want an armored boat for sea combat but I don't see why you would abandon the surf board altogether unless you didn't have a sanity problem and didn't want to travel in hurricane season. Now once you explore the entire map I can see why you would get board of the surf bored. In which case we need a recipe... hmmm... Volcano Altar... + Surf Board + Dragoon Egg + 5 obsidian = x3 boat health, immunity to fire, ignites attackers, +50% speed during dry season because the board heats up red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeilerderWelten Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, NoQuitting said: Don't forget Walani's surfboard has 2 unique advantages other boats do not have. 1) It can surf big waves which is a big deal during hurricane season. 2) It restores one sanity per wave surf which is a big deal when you are travelling across the map. 3) She can hold items in her hand such as torches while surfing which you cannot do with other boats. So imagine for a minute you had a boat attachment which allowed you to ride big waves and gain sanity from riding all waves... well that is what is permanently attached to Walani's surfboard so it isn't such a bad deal for many situations. This allows Walani to comfortably surf through the entire hurricane season and eat nothing but raw seaweed while still maintaining sanity. Of course there is still going to be situations you want an armored boat for sea combat but I don't see why you would abandon the surf board altogether unless you didn't have a sanity problem and didn't want to travel in hurricane season. Cargo Boat has item slots, Armored Boat has 5 times the durability, a lantern slot and is only with a Cloth Sail faster than Walanis Surfboard, with a Feather Sail or Iron Wind, it is way faster than Walanis Surfboard. Also, I don't see any reason to get in my boat in Hurricane Season, constant ligthing strikes burn down your world and you have more than enough time to explore the world in Calm- and in Monsoon Season, without burning down half your world. Making Walanis Surfboard (Sailboard) the by far fastest thing on the water, would be the only way, why someone wants to use that thing over Cargo- and Armored Boat. The 1 sanity point from riding waves is ok, insanity isn't a big deal for every character but DST Willow (she freezes to death) and picking up your board is a joke, islands are normally so small, that you wont even waste half a minute most of the time, by not picking up your board. The best thing of Walani is her (voice), such a great melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager156 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 7 hours ago, Ogrecakes said: and since none of the islands are really unique or game changing to find, spending most of your time exploring early is a waste I don't agree. Personally I explore as much as I can till day 19-20, and after that I make my camp. 7 hours ago, Ogrecakes said: So instead of letting her surf board perks go to waste, how about giving her some upgrades for it? Like a sailing board, or a battle board that hurts things when you run into things or something like that (quackering ram hype). Make her a surf board specialist, with a board for every occasion, I don't know. People would prolly stop complaining about her if ya did. Similar ideas was suggested earlier - and yeah, they should change her surfboard definitely. 1 hour ago, HeilerderWelten said: Making Walanis Surfboard (Sailboard) the by far fastest thing on the water, would be the only way, why someone wants to use that thing over Cargo- and Armored Boat. They should do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaMaluk Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 On 3/21/2016 at 0:57 PM, Muttbutt said: A little off topic, but it's about Walani. Why does Woodlegs have the perk of never drowning, but Walani doesnt? She's a surfer, and her board is a lot weaker health wise compared to the Sea Legs. Agreed. I commented about this as well in other thread and I totally agree. Woodlegs shouldn't have this perk at all. Walani is a surfer. She should be the queen of the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphireBullets Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 4 hours ago, FreyaMaluk said: Agreed. I commented about this as well in other thread and I totally agree. Woodlegs shouldn't have this perk at all. Walani is a surfer. She should be the queen of the sea. Well, Woodlegs can drown now, but as a note, characters drown because they're pulled under by Them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 1 hour ago, SapphireBullets said: Well, Woodlegs can drown now, but as a note, characters drown because they're pulled under by Them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeputyDeath Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I don't understand this whole 'upgrade the surfboard' thing. It's supposed to be an easily replaceable yet quite competent mode of boat travel, and serves its purpose just fine. My only suggestion would be to remove the seashells from the recipe and replace them with something else (like bamboo or vines), but honestly I don't think it's too much of an issue. Also, how being able to carry it around a bad thing? Have you seen some of the super-massive islands in the game now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager156 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Well, the ability to carry the surfboard in my opinion is great - I really like it. But her surfboard really should be upgraded! cough... sailing board cough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeputyDeath Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 2 hours ago, voyager156 said: Well, the ability to carry the surfboard in my opinion is great - I really like it. But her surfboard really should be upgraded! cough... sailing board cough... But then you're borderline overpowered here. The sea legs was balanced with a slow acceleration and zero compatibility with attatchments, so the surfboard - which is much cheaper and can be carried - should receive the same sort of treatment. Which it already has, by having little durability and too not having any equippable attatchments. I see the surfboard as an 'emergency escape', or a method of restoring sanity, rather than an actual boat that's designed for travelling. It already fulfils both of these roles very well, and likewise doesn't fulfil the role of having the high durability and customisability of the boats (and vice-versa). So yeah. You can't balance the surfboard relative to the other boats because its purpose is quite a lot different. If they had the same role, the other boats would become redundant to Walani later on and that's just stupid, considering that boats other than the Sea Legs are still useful to Woodlegs - a character with similar traits to Walani - for the faster acceleration, longer damage resistance time (on the armoured boat) and lantern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager156 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 26 minutes ago, DeputyDeath said: But then you're borderline overpowered here. How ?? 26 minutes ago, DeputyDeath said: The sea legs was balanced with a slow acceleration and zero compatibility with attatchments, so the surfboard - which is much cheaper and can be carried - should receive the same sort of treatment. Which it already has, by having little durability and too not having any equippable attatchments. But the Sea Legs have great durability, quite nice speed now, and can fire from infinite cannon... And what special advantages have her surfboard? You can carry it - that's all... So ok, maybe you have a point here - sail slot is too much. But at least they should change her surfboard speed from 6,5 to 7,5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeputyDeath Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 49 minutes ago, voyager156 said: How ?? But the Sea Legs have great durability, quite nice speed now, and can fire from infinite cannon... And what special advantages have her surfboard? You can carry it - that's all... So ok, maybe you have a point here - sail slot is too much. But at least they should change her surfboard speed from 6,5 to 7,5. 7.5 is insane speed when you don't have to replace a sail every few days. Anyway, you're not meant to be using the surfboard all the time. You just carry it around with you in case you need to travel a short distance between islands without making a new raft/walking to your old one, or as an escape route if you're cornered. You shouldn't be using a surfboard for exploring. There are armoured and cargo boats for that. It would be like using Willow's lighter for ruins exploration, or Abigail to take on the dragonfly. The special items aren't meant to be amazing all the time (excluding Lucy), but provide SITUATIONAL advantages over the default items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillPwn4Food Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 7 hours ago, DeputyDeath said: But then you're borderline overpowered here. The sea legs was balanced with a slow acceleration and zero compatibility with attatchments, so the surfboard - which is much cheaper and can be carried - should receive the same sort of treatment. Which it already has, by having little durability and too not having any equippable attatchments. I see the surfboard as an 'emergency escape', or a method of restoring sanity, rather than an actual boat that's designed for travelling. It already fulfils both of these roles very well, and likewise doesn't fulfil the role of having the high durability and customisability of the boats (and vice-versa). So yeah. You can't balance the surfboard relative to the other boats because its purpose is quite a lot different. If they had the same role, the other boats would become redundant to Walani later on and that's just stupid, considering that boats other than the Sea Legs are still useful to Woodlegs - a character with similar traits to Walani - for the faster acceleration, longer damage resistance time (on the armoured boat) and lantern. I get what you're saying, but you have to consider how minor Walani's advantages are compared to Woodlegs. I play Walani and really like her (the accelerated drying can be extremely useful at sea), but I still wish she had a little more going for her. Really, the only time I use her boat anymore is for my volcano panic island. I sail just off shore and then use my board to continue the rest of the way so that my transportation doesn't get smashed by dragoon eggs. It stinks that that's the extent one characters special item is useful other than the starting days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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