CameoAppearance Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 When I heard that it had the same sanity restoration rate as the Tam O'Shanter I genuinely expected to have to kill a tough pirate enemy for it, likely with a similar low drop rate to MacTusk. Instead, it's easier to craft than the Snakeskin Hat (only needs a single piece of rope, rather than a whole straw hat, and a single piece of silk rather than the 6 required for a top hat) and vastly more useful. More useful than almost any other available hat for almost any other situation, really, unless you specifically want overheating protection. (It's not Eyebrella-tier waterproof, but it could cap off an outfit involving an umbrella or snakeskin raincoat.) With this recipe, why would anyone ever make top hats when the Pirate Hat exists? It even has the same mild water resistance. Skeletons can be a little hard to find in the early game, but you'll eventually make plenty from your own deaths. Same for spiders, but it takes less silk to make a Pirate Hat than even a fishing rod or a bug net. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweaselcrow Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This is balanced by the pirate hat lasting 2 days, as opposed to the top hat's 8 days, and the Tam's 25 days. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexeiwc3gosu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Indeed, it wears off very fast, i still prefer top hat in the daytime Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoDeusMachina Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This is balanced by the pirate hat lasting 2 days, as opposed to the top hat's 8 days, and the Tam's 25 days. Not saying it's a good enough reason not to tweak the pirate hat, but that is exactly what crossed my mind when I read the OP. I never craft a pirate hat for sanity. I'm happy when I find the occasional boon with the free pirate hat because that means I get to craft the pirathatitator without having to worry about that component. The reason being it melts on my head. I just look at it and it gets used up. Not worth my time and ressources, not worth repairing either (might as well craft a new one eh?). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameoAppearance Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Didn't realise it wore out that fast. I still don't think the recipe's balanced against the spoil time (if you found a lot of skeletons or died several times you'd be able to keep up a steady stream of pirate hats by midgame, assuming you didn't need those bone shards for something higher-priority), but with that context I agree that it doesn't need as big of a nerf. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envoke Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I kinda agree, it does wear off rather quickly, but the materials for it is easy to get. Unless you get really unlucky and can't find treasure chests. Should cost a little bit more of those tooth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebottom Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I honestly like it as is since this world is more "wet" than even ROG and you're constantly losing sanity. Plus you can't really wear it regularly like a top hat because as others said above, it only lasts for 2 days. That aside, I hate to break this to you since you already don't like how easy it is to get, but.....You can leave crabs to spoil in their traps and they turn into spoiled fish, which you can hammer down for more bone shards. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameoAppearance Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 I honestly like it as is since this world is more "wet" than even ROG and you're constantly losing sanity. Plus you can't really wear it regularly like a top hat because as others said above, it only lasts for 2 days. That aside, I hate to break this to you since you already don't like how easy it is to get, but.....You can leave crabs to spoil in their traps and they turn into spoiled fish, which you can hammer down for more bone shards. ...I found out about that on the forums earlier (couldn't figure out how to get rid of spoiled fish when I was playing) and I was going to try that, but then I forgot about it. *facepalm* Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebottom Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I found out about that on the forums earlier (couldn't figure out how to get rid of spoiled fish when I was playing) and I was going to try that, but then I forgot about it. *facepalm* That's where I found it out too! ^^ I was desperate for bone shards, I thought you needed a Captain's Hat to avoid getting wet from waves. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aalda11 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Both the Pirate Hat and Sand Castle are way too OP and because of them sanity becomes a non-issue in SW. Then again hunger is a non-issue thanks to the Monster Meat/Seaweed combo and health is a non issue because of the 1 Ice/3 Limpets recipe that restores 60 HP. On the other hand the second part of the volcano season is almost impossible to manage without relying too much on luck. Yeah, it's an alpha Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexeiwc3gosu Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Both the Pirate Hat and Sand Castle are way too OP and because of them sanity becomes a non-issue in SW. Then again hunger is a non-issue thanks to the Monster Meat/Seaweed combo and health is a non issue because of the 1 Ice/3 Limpets recipe that restores 60 HP. On the other hand the second part of the volcano season is almost impossible to manage without relying too much on luck. Yeah, it's an alpha Stay in the sea, meteors cant damgae you only waves Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMJJack Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think they should have even lower durability and/or require more silk. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotheran Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The boneshards thing makes it a bit non-renewable, I haven't been able to have long runs but from what I have seen there's a limited amount of note bottles, so yeah, eventually your pirate hat, snake skin suit/hat, captains hat and any other boneshard using recipe supply will run out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitboy Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I honestly hate that It's only lasts for 2 days. Capitan Hat and Pirate hat should be more expensive (Though Capitan hat is pretty expensive already) and last longer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeilerderWelten Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This is balanced by the pirate hat lasting 2 days, as opposed to the top hat's 8 days, and the Tam's 25 days. That is true, but the Pirate hat has 20% water resistanceand it makes the radius of your map vision 20% bigger. (when you are in the boat). It is way to easy to make for what it is. The recipe should be something like that: - 2x Bone shards (it has crossbones on it, so it should be atleast 2)- 1x Rope- 3x Silk Or what would be even better: - 2x Bone shards- 3x Rope- 5x Silk But raise the durability from 2 days to 5-6 days. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeilerderWelten Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The boneshards thing makes it a bit non-renewable, I haven't been able to have long runs but from what I have seen there's a limited amount of note bottles, so yeah, eventually your pirate hat, snake skin suit/hat, captains hat and any other boneshard using recipe supply will run out. You get bone shards when you hammer the bones of spoiled crabs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamApart Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 This is balanced by the pirate hat lasting 2 days, as opposed to the top hat's 8 days, and the Tam's 25 days. Not really. Bone shards are cheaper because they can be acquired by hammering rotten fish. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrderedChaos Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Pls no pirate hat nerf. That thing saved my ass during monsoon season where I spent most of the time above 25 wetness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigggy2000 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Its also one of the only head gear with that level of sanity gain. I wouldn't mind just increasing the number of each current individual ingredient myself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/60503-the-pirate-hat-is-way-too-easy-to-get/#findComment-695626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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