The Loss Of Dark Atmosphere

[TheWiseGnome]

I have been browsing youtube and stumbled on video with adventure mode ending.

And i immediately remembered why i liked ds so much.

*Its all just my thoughts. Not offending anyone*

The text below is my message in official Klei discord

I want maxwell to become the ruler and ds become this spooky uncompromising survival again,not the boss rush😭 

I was rewatching old trailers,and god,how atmosphere they were.

I really hate the idea of death being not permanent in new dst game,when you though that your character lives his last days in this cruel world it felt different.

I really hate what happened to this unique atmosphere 😭 

Dst turned in some kind of Fortnite for me,cuz nothing in there matters. Since the last time there is more frivolity than cruelty in this world. 

I really hope that Elsewhere gonna be like old dont starves, without this lunar-wagstaff like ****

I would like there to be more wild creatures different weather conditions,more threats, more interesting gear (in first ds you had to deal with world threats preferably via aggro them on eachother,lure them into tentacles etc)

Hopefully there will be less fun service things.

I love the cynical humour they used to have in old ds,they still have it in dst but it's way too teethless

I do love amount of content dst has,i love this amazing soundtracks and cinematics,but it's just different 

And for me, talking subjectively, its different in bad way

I really want Klei to notice this post and keep ds the Survival game with horror aspects in it,not some stupid boss rush MMO in which direction its going rn,WX rework for example.

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:48 PM by TheWiseGnome

[Maxil20]

46 minutes ago, TheWiseGnome said:

I want maxwell to become the ruler and ds become this spooky uncompromising survival again,not the boss rush😭 

You realize DS is still there, right? Like, you can literally boot up DS right now and play it. Nothing is stopping you from enjoying the atmosphere of the original game if you preferred it's more lonely ambience.

[Mike23Ua]

There is NOTHING in DS or it’s three dlc expansions that can even compare to DST having corpses that buzzards swoop down, eat upon and then mutate them into zombified variants… nothing in the entirety of DS.

And my only hope is that this same creepy vibe that DST had will carry over into DSE.

[Ev1l]

I don't get why the 2 responses to this thread are so defensive about dst, when it is a fact that it has been losing ambience gradually along the years. Original ds had a nice balance of goofy and unsettling moments, meanwhile dst seems to take a dial back on the creepier side.

31 minutes ago, Maxil20 said:

You realize DS is still there, right? Like, you can literally boot up DS right now and play it. Nothing is stopping you from enjoying the atmosphere of the original game if you preferred it's more lonely ambience.

I don't like this argument at all. Dst is a sequel to ds. Shouldn't it keep the core of the game while building on top of it?

[GimplyGoose]

I recently went back and played DS and I gotta be honest, the vibes of the two games are almost identical. The main differences I can identify in the two games is mechanical. For example, in DST, combat is incentivized to a much higher degree. There are some elements to DST not present in DS that I would consider more dark and spooky than elements in DS. Like the void-masque possessed mobs and their creepy quotes and the occult-like ritual you need to perform to summon ancient fuelweaver.

That being said, I think it would be easy to perceive DST as less spooky, especially if you are already familiar with DS. I think that familiarity with a medium will inherently cause it to be perceived as less spooky. If you rewatch a horror movie, the second viewing is just not going to produce the same level of emotional response compared to the first viewing.

I will admit that the cosmic horror themes present in DST are much different than anything in DS, but I am glad those themes are being explored. I think that theme can be just as creepily compelling as a dark and spooky theme and, personally, I think it fits in to the setting well.

[Maxil20]

4 hours ago, Ev1l said:

I don't get why the 2 responses to this thread are so defensive about dst, when it is a fact that it has been losing ambience gradually along the years. Original ds had a nice balance of goofy and unsettling moments, meanwhile dst seems to take a dial back on the creepier side.

I don't like this argument at all. Dst is a sequel to ds. Shouldn't it keep the core of the game while building on top of it?

The thing is, DST did build off of the original game. The problem is that being a Multiplayer game means, fundamentally, that the tone was going to shift. One of the big things that made DS stand out was the lonely ambience of effectively being the only player lost in a dark island. That ambience is much less impactful when both ingame and in the trailers there are other characters there to help out on travels. Heck, this itself was one of the major reasons Klei didn't initially want to make DST in the first place. To quote a post from JoeW:

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We resisted a multiplayer game specifically because (and we said as much) it went against the idea of Don't Starve. Just by the nature of having more players, it was going to be a different experience. We argued this so much we had emotes for it...
Discussion of it was literally banned from the forums.

I don't think it's really been declining that much since. The game itself is fundamentally different in its tone compared to DS, and I think that's okay.

 

Edited Friday at 05:23 AM by Maxil20

[TheWiseGnome]

5 hours ago, Maxil20 said:

You realize DS is still there, right? Like, you can literally boot up DS right now and play it. Nothing is stopping you from enjoying the atmosphere of the original game if you preferred it's more lonely ambience.

I do realize this, but why do I need to play a game,that is not receiving any updates and everything already explored? As someone said before DST has plenty content in it and i love it,what i dont like,that Constant changed from wild world with backrooms vibes into literal botanical park that everyone can attend,i really hate wagstaff arc and i hate the lunar arc as well,the idea of this world being operated only by shadows and even the king itself is being trapped  literally beautiful and so authentic,they did a good job back then,ngl

Edited Friday at 06:14 AM by TheWiseGnome

[Jakepeng99]

I remember seeing that message and yeah i believe this is why Klei is making a new game