Can you make this update

[KorryFox]

Hello Klei I have very cool idea for update in don’t starve together.

If you buy Hamlet and Shipwrecked you can play in it with friends. You can make characters from normal Don’t starve and everyone who making servers in Dont starve together will buy Don’t starve for playing Hamlet and Shipwrecked with friends.

[KorryFox]

22 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

I had a similar idea, and I hope they implement it. People with the DLC will be able to create a world with it but people without will only be able to play in this world.. 

Yes but they payed for Dont starve together. Someone will buy DLC for it

[chirsg]

1 hour ago, KorryFox said:

Hello Klei I have very cool idea for update in don’t starve together.

If you buy Hamlet and Shipwrecked you can play in it with friends. You can make characters from normal Don’t starve and everyone who making servers in Dont starve together will buy Don’t starve for playing Hamlet and Shipwrecked with friends.

I like it. I'll explain a couple of things at the moment.

There's a passionate mod team that includes Zarklord, an actual klei developer, who has worked on a Shipwrecked DST mod called Island Adventures. So far, Island adventures is REALLY damn good and there aren't enough people playing it. 

It's very loyal to the source material, but there are current difficulties making SOME DST features work for shipwrecked mechanics. Shipwrecked boats wrap around the border fog, but dst boats do not.

 

There are 2 teams working on a Hamlet mod and they're trying to figure out the best way to do interior cells, because they cannot do it the same way as they do it in the base game and have it work in DST.

 

It would be good to have the 2 dlcs in base game. I'd really love it.

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, KorryFox said:

Hello Klei I have very cool idea for update in don’t starve together.

If you buy Hamlet and Shipwrecked you can play in it with friends. You can make characters from normal Don’t starve and everyone who making servers in Dont starve together will buy Don’t starve for playing Hamlet and Shipwrecked with friends.

If I had a nickel for every single time someone made a post wanting shipwrecked and hamlet DLCs to be compatible with DST I would have enough money to personally fund the project myself on a Kickstarter Campaign.

I just bought the Dimension ShellShock DLC for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the other day- and the COOL thing about that DLC is that only I need to Own it, but I can invite 5 other people from my friends list who DON’T own it to join into my game and be able to use the two new characters and play in the new RogueLite survival Mode.

I love that my friends can enjoy the dlc mode, skin customization & playable characters, without each friend needing to spend 10$ to buy the DLC themselves.

If SW & Hamlet compatibility was to ever be added to DST I would prefer it to be set up this way honestly… OTHERWISE- not only do I have to buy DLC for myself, but I have to also buy it for anyone I want to play the DLC with (cause they’re all cheapskates & wont buy it themselves lol)

It also particularly helps family members who want to play together, I didn’t have to pay 10$ to buy Dimension ShellShock for Myself, an Additional 10$ For my Dad & an even further 10$ for my sister.

Video Games are EXPENSIVE these days… so if DLC compatibility was to be made for DST, Klei can charge me 15$ upfront for it I don’t care- As long as I don’t have to buy the dlc for everyone else I want to play it with.

[KorryFox]

59 minutes ago, chirsg said:

I like it. I'll explain a couple of things at the moment.

There's a passionate mod team that includes Zarklord, an actual klei developer, who has worked on a Shipwrecked DST mod called Island Adventures. So far, Island adventures is REALLY damn good and there aren't enough people playing it. 

It's very loyal to the source material, but there are current difficulties making SOME DST features work for shipwrecked mechanics. Shipwrecked boats wrap around the border fog, but dst boats do not.

 

There are 2 teams working on a Hamlet mod and they're trying to figure out the best way to do interior cells, because they cannot do it the same way as they do it in the base game and have it work in DST.

 

It would be good to have the 2 dlcs in base game. I'd really love it.

Ohh really? Ok

56 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

If I had a nickel for every single time someone made a post wanting shipwrecked and hamlet DLCs to be compatible with DST I would have enough money to personally fund the project myself on a Kickstarter Campaign.

I just bought the Dimension ShellShock DLC for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the other day- and the COOL thing about that DLC is that only I need to Own it, but I can invite 5 other people from my friends list who DON’T own it to join into my game and be able to use the two new characters and play in the new RogueLite survival Mode.

I love that my friends can enjoy the dlc mode, skin customization & playable characters, without each friend needing to spend 10$ to buy the DLC themselves.

If SW & Hamlet compatibility was to ever be added to DST I would prefer it to be set up this way honestly… OTHERWISE- not only do I have to buy DLC for myself, but I have to also buy it for anyone I want to play the DLC with (cause they’re all cheapskates & wont buy it themselves lol)

It also particularly helps family members who want to play together, I didn’t have to pay 10$ to buy Dimension ShellShock for Myself, an Additional 10$ For my Dad & an even further 10$ for my sister.

Video Games are EXPENSIVE these days… so if DLC compatibility was to be made for DST, Klei can charge me 15$ upfront for it I don’t care- As long as I don’t have to buy the dlc for everyone else I want to play it with.

No, you will need buy DLC for creating server.

[Nnumber3]

I have said this before, this can't happen. im not typing it again so heres a link: Expanding DST to include SW and HAM - Page 2 - [Don't Starve Together] General Discussion - Klei Entertainment Forums

 

backed up with data charts!

 

[Mike23Ua]

1 hour ago, Nnumber3 said:

I have said this before, this can't happen. im not typing it again so heres a link: Expanding DST to include SW and HAM - Page 2 - [Don't Starve Together] General Discussion - Klei Entertainment Forums

 

backed up with data charts!

 

Yeah I don’t understand, nor do I actually care for these data charts.

Answer one question for me is all want.

I bought a DLC for a game called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Shredders Revenge the DLC was called Dimension ShellShock, This game can be played with up to 6 Players- And the DLC adds two new fighters, new skins & a brand new game mode. Even though I was the only person to BUY the DLC I can invite 5 other people who DID NOT BUY the DLC to join my game and enjoy the fighters, skins and mode as if they owned the DLC themselves.

So my question is a very simple one- Why can’t DST do this for its DLC & Not just Shipwrecked or Hamlet compatibility but any potential brand new expansion as well???

Don’t Starve the single player game is a DEAD game, I mean it came out in like 2013… DST is still being kept relevant with updates in 2023 & Beyond, but as far as Single Player DS goes… unless Klei decides to add a new expansion to it- it’s over and Dead…

And considering that Pc players can play single players dlcs through mods for free.. I don’t think we can really say the two dlc expansions drive sales for Solo DS anymore either.

Now if you want to discuss the most LOGICAL reason Klei hasn’t done SW/Ham compatibility yet.. it would be development time & resources that can be spent elsewhere such as new content exclusive to DST..

However- as often as these threads like this surface onto the forums, surely they have to know that it is probably the most requested thing players want for the game.

I got a feeling that (soonish) we will eventually hear a definitive confirmation from Klei on rather or not they plan to do SW/Ham compatibility.. Probably in the 2024 or maybe even 2025 Roadmap.

[Dextops]

7 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yeah I don’t understand, nor do I actually care for these data charts.

Perfect counter argument “I don’t know and I don’t care”

[Nnumber3]

So you don't care about Data that proves you wrong?

your that stubborn?

You will never be convinced no matter what i do so what's the point, mike does mike things.

Did you even read the post? i said the mods are not the same as the real thing.

whatever, your clearly being driven by desire then logic...

I take that i won this argument, if your pulling laughable "arguments" 

15 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yeah I don’t understand, nor do I actually care for these data charts.

 

[Cheggf]

They don't want to split the playerbase.

[Nnumber3]

50 minutes ago, Cheggf said:

They don't want to split the playerbase.

1 of the many reasons,

[gamehun20]

3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

So my question is a very simple one- Why can’t DST do this for its DLC & Not just Shipwrecked or Hamlet compatibility but any potential brand new expansion as well???

Because dst is quite more complicated than a side scrolling fighting game it's not just paste one thing. Your argument is also instantly doesn't matter if you behave like this

3 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yeah I don’t understand, nor do I actually care for these data charts.

you keep doing these posts even tho everyone proves you wrong with actual data and not just "ThE BaSe GaMe Is DEaD" bs

[JoeW]

Please keep posts polite and without personal attacks. Thanks. 

[chirsg]

Based mike. Data doesn't matter.

Dst is always going to be a game that is going to have more players by virtue of being playable with other people. Furthermore, dst is ironed out a lot better. It's way too hard to go back once you've played together.

Mods are never going to be played more than the base game. There's an inherent problem of trust with every single server side mod which is, if an update breaks it, there's a risk it will never be updated ever again. 

I truly think that ship/ham game mods could successfully co-exist with one another. If the two game modes exist, so will public servers. 

I don't like the "Split the player base" argument as it implies playing one expansion means you will never, ever, EVER play the other 2. 
Also, I'm in love with the possibility that in base RoG (dst) we get hamlet and sw items. 

 

Having all 3 expansions in dst I believe is impossible to implement because the devs simply can't do it. It's too complicated. 

6 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I have said this before, this can't happen. im not typing it again so heres a link: Expanding DST to include SW and HAM - Page 2 - [Don't Starve Together] General Discussion - Klei Entertainment Forums

 

backed up with data charts!

 

Your data is fine. But there are good reasons as to why one wouldn't play single player even if one adores it, such as myself. I absolutely love all the single player game modes, but the problem is with SP is that my world with 1000 days is basically unplayable. I've slowed down to a crawl, especially when changing worlds. For whatever reason, my game in dst with 11000 days functions as well as the day I generated it, aside from loading times.

I can't help but think that general optimization holds back the co-current player count. I truly believe this. 

But skins too. Skins go a long way and that's one of the things I'd truly wish I had in ds

[_zwb]

Porting Shipwreck and Hamlet to DST is just a lot of extra work for the developers, if they ever do that, from beyond will probably not get finished until 2030.

They can't just copy and paste the code, DS and DST are very different code wise, you would know if you've ever tired to port something from DS to DST, or the other way around.

[Ulisesvolador]

6 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I have said this before, this can't happen. im not typing it again so heres a link: Expanding DST to include SW and HAM - Page 2 - [Don't Starve Together] General Discussion - Klei Entertainment Forums

 

backed up with data charts!

I still don't understand what you were trying to refute in #1, Mike's original question/argument was: why adding DLC's from DS to DST would make DS Sales would go down?, but you only put "data" and charts and said that the DS Playerbase would go down.

I agree with the rest of your points in that linked comment, though.

5 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

However- as often as these threads like this surface onto the forums, surely they have to know that it is probably the most requested thing players want for the game.

You're correct if we exclude: Boss reworks, Character changes (recently Skill Trees), Biome changes/updates, monthly Wolfgang nerf thread and QoL features.

5 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I take that i won this argument

I thought people discussed things to reach an agreement (even if they agree to disagree) and not to "Win".

[Nnumber3]

2 hours ago, Ulisesvolador said:

I still don't understand what you were trying to refute in #1, Mike's original question/argument was: why adding DLC's from DS to DST would make DS Sales would go down?, but you only put "data" and charts and said that the DS Playerbase would go down.

I agree with the rest of your points in that linked comment, though.

You're correct if we exclude: Boss reworks, Character changes (recently Skill Trees), Biome changes/updates, monthly Wolfgang nerf thread and QoL features.

I thought people discussed things to reach an agreement (even if they agree to disagree) and not to "Win".

Well I was just pretty annoyed that all the effort i put into the post somehow gets invalidated by 

 

9 hours ago, Mike23Ua said:

Yeah I don’t understand, nor do I actually care for these data charts.

How about this: I heavy disagree with your points, and you won't listen to my points, if the only thing you have to refute is above this argument, then the argument is already over, at the point arguing with you would be going in circles, unless you have any actual points, pls inform me.

The first point was me thinking that since there are no sales chart, The player base chart is all i have and when the player count is high more new players are buying the game generally then when its low.

[00petar00]

13 hours ago, Nnumber3 said:

I have said this before, this can't happen. im not typing it again so heres a link: Expanding DST to include SW and HAM - Page 2 - [Don't Starve Together] General Discussion - Klei Entertainment Forums

 

backed up with data charts!

 

DS is aging slowly and DST players have a hard time going back to play it. I understand that it would be a huge undertaking for developers to port the DLCs to DST and I don't think anyone can be sure whether it would be worth doing and there's almost no chance it will happen now.

Over time the game will slowly die because it will not be getting any new content, I know that there were a lot of bugfixes recently but that is probably the last "big" update for DS.

I do really want to play hamlet more but playing without the updates that currently exist in DST is a big reason not to. I will say that I tried and couldn't adapt to playing DS after so many years of DST. There's also skins that make it harder to play DS too.

What you are not considering is how many more players would DST get if it had the DLCs and possibly new skins to fit the theme and would that outweigh the current value DS brings? I don't think that it would be detrimental to klei when it comes to profit if they decided to go though with it and the only reason I believe they didn't do it is because they have to consider whether it would split the playerbase.

I know that it is a bit too late to expect full ports now, so I would be happy if we got some shipwrecked content ported that fits DST Ocean and hopefully that would make it less empty and boring.

With Hamlet they could do something similar. What I would want to see in this partial port is pig city and economy so that I don't need to hoard everything, especially when chests are bad for storage and only have 9 slots. This content could be added to a new island on the ocean so that it is less empty.

Player housing would be an interesting idea with the ability to lock it from other players so that it will at least partially help combat griefing but you would be limited on what you could take inside (no quest items).

[Mysterious box]

1 hour ago, 00petar00 said:

Player housing would be an interesting idea with the ability to lock it from other players so that it will at least partially help combat griefing but you would be limited on what you could take inside (no quest items).

As nice as this sounds it would just lead to new and more creative types of griefing like stockpiling all the world's non quest items inside a house.

[gamehun20]

3 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

As nice as this sounds it would just lead to new and more creative types of griefing like stockpiling all the world's non quest items inside a house.

Also can't you just light a house on fire and void what's inside? Or does it drop like a chest?

[chirsg]

36 minutes ago, gamehun20 said:

Also can't you just light a house on fire and void what's inside? Or does it drop like a chest?

You can't do that. It doesn't work that way in hamlet.

41 minutes ago, Mysterious box said:

As nice as this sounds it would just lead to new and more creative types of griefing like stockpiling all the world's non quest items inside a house.

There's an obvious fix. Have essential items incapable of going inside of a house just like how you cannot bundle eye bone and terrarium

[gamehun20]

5 minutes ago, chirsg said:

There's an obvious fix. Have essential items incapable of going inside of a house just like how you cannot bundle eye bone and terrarium

i think they meant resources like grass and twigs and such

[chirsg]

Just now, gamehun20 said:

i think they meant resources like grass and twigs and such

You can burn them with a torch. Or worse yet, logging off. A friend of mine was voted to be kicked out of a server for chasing a wortox and feeding him stonefruit and then a vote to kick started right at the end of the day so my friend took all the starcallers before the vote was unanimous and my friend was kicked. 

 

Literally just take an item and log off. Building a whole house, which I would assume would be exponentially expensive in the early game, just to take resources and place them as opposed to destroying them or just logging off is taking away the humble simplicity of casual mayhem. Why complicate a system that works more efficiently? 

[Uedo]

@JoeW 

Can we please have a gamemode where 6 players are trapped in a prefabbed campfire island - Only the chat feature works and we have to argue until everyone is tired? 

I think it'd really help the community  

[Jakepeng99]

19 hours ago, KorryFox said:

Hello Klei I have very cool idea for update in don’t starve together.

If you buy Hamlet and Shipwrecked you can play in it with friends. You can make characters from normal Don’t starve and everyone who making servers in Dont starve together will buy Don’t starve for playing Hamlet and Shipwrecked with friends.

Wholesome suggestion. I wish though, we have a mod for shipwrecked at least

52 minutes ago, Uedo said:

@JoeW 

Can we please have a gamemode where 6 players are trapped in a prefabbed campfire island - Only the chat feature works and we have to argue until everyone is tired? 

I think it'd really help the community  

The last person that pinged JoeW for an invalid reason was found with their shoelaces tied together a day later.