Trevindo Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 In this topic, I will discuss in a more philosophical manner how the skill tree of Warly will unfold, or at least how I would like it to, but first, I will try to define what his playstyle would be. Remember that I have already made other posts about more tangible advantages. "Warly is a utility character focused on granting beneficial stats and effects to his companions. He is considered a challenging character due to his gameplay (advantages and disadvantages) revolving around two of the most complex aspects of the game: the cooking system and the farming system." Knowing this, we can try to imagine which path his skill tree should follow in order to preserve his playstyle, and I believe the best way to do that is by providing advantages that increase his difficulty. What do I mean by "increasing difficulty"? I am not referring to simply making things more laborious or resource-intensive; the difficulty I'm talking about is in terms of complexity and management. What do I mean? Let's give Warly more recipes or seasonings with new fun effects, but make these recipes require exotic ingredients that are underutilized, such as Durian or Pomegranates. Introduce new cooking items that provide benefits but require careful attention. For example, a backpack pot that cooks food while you walk but has reduced storage space. We could even improve Warly's chef's pack to function as a salt fridge, which can be opened on the ground but needs to be fed with salt. Enhance the utilization of food items, which will give more points for meat, dairy, sweets, vegetables, fish, or eggs in recipes when prepared by Warly. This is in line with the thematic aspect where the player can specialize in what kind of chef they want to be: Saucier (meat), Pâtissier (sweets), Légumier (vegetables), and Poissonier (fish). Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4zyFl4mes Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Backpack pot is one of the most creative and one of the best ideas i've heard on this forum No need to give it storage, the cooking on the go would be great and pretty balanced imo. I like all other suggestions too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatt Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 He needs to be able to pickle food. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Safety Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The only things I'm almost certain about are that he will be able to provide planar damage and defense through spices/dishes (feels like a given), and a skill that increases the time/potency of dishes that apply buffs when he eats them (we Warly mains have been asking for that for awhile). The rest is gonna be a surprise Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Tres magnifique: more French in inspection quotes Picky sleeper: Warly will refuse to sleep on sleep rolls Only the freshest ingredients: Warly will refuse to cook with stale/spoiled food Evelo’s special dish: Warly can no longer be picked from the character selection screen if the selection screen was triggered by a moon rock idol Barbed hamburger: moon glass can be used as inedible filler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memetan Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Genocide Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Memetan said: Genocide When consumed all boss music suddenly becomes megalovania. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanTheMime Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 here's some unlock ideas: 1. let meatballs ignore his "cant eat the same food" mechanic 2. another down the same meatball path which will make the saturation you get from meatballs increase with how many you have eaten in succession 3. get rid of his spices and stuff (i think its kinda confusing and bloats the game) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, EthanTheMime said: 3. get rid of his spices and stuff (i think its kinda confusing and bloats the game) Personally I'd expand on his spices using more commonly found ingredients. Perhaps even give him the ability to combine multiple spices on a single dish. 13 minutes ago, EthanTheMime said: 1. let meatballs ignore his "cant eat the same food" mechanic 2. another down the same meatball path which will make the saturation you get from meatballs increase with how many you have eaten in succession Let's not pull a Wormwood here... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mysterious box said: Personally I'd expand on his spices using more commonly found ingredients. Perhaps even give him the ability to combine multiple spices on a single dish Spice upgrades/adding new ones could be neat because as it stands his spices aren’t really useful except for maybe the chili spice id also think it’d be good if he had a tree that gave him more bonuses from his own special foods as to give a reason to actually stay as him Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4zyFl4mes Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dextops said: Spice upgrades/adding new ones could be neat because as it stands his spices aren’t really useful except for maybe the chili spice I usually grow chilli and garlic together, so i always garlic my healing foods if some garlic is available. Also, the honey spice is pretty good, especially coupled with glass axes. Sure companions or maxwell is more efficient, but if those are not around, honey spice is easily accessible, cheap and thus worth it. And while i don't think salt spice is completely useless, I personally don't use it very much. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNOUS Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I hope they give warly special cookware, things like from Gorge can be very fun. I had thought that Warly can brew drinkables Tea pots exclusive to warly and tables. Need ice, and must be cooked on fire pit. Warly can make feed an different type of fertilizer and cause berry bush give fresh lefts. Bush leafs can be dryer in drying deck and yield tea. Warly can make tea and can be poured multiple time. That can return the temperature to 35c and give sanity. And negate sanity drain form dusk Their is some one had suggest that let Warly make pickles. I am a fan of that ideas too. Personally suggest to make more use of spices/food recipes instead of more yield of resources. its had enough already. F.e. some kind of spice that make food take longer to expire To support those new ideas its best to add biome thus can make fit all othes different plants Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious box Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Dextops said: Spice upgrades/adding new ones could be neat because as it stands his spices aren’t really useful except for maybe the chili spice id also think it’d be good if he had a tree that gave him more bonuses from his own special foods as to give a reason to actually stay as him Personally I use all his current spices aside from salt I kind of feel like there's not much reason not to use the honey spice since it's something that passively generates and I can't say no to having higher defense. Though since we're already dipping our toes into mixing into other characters territory I think it'd be a good idea to give Warly a way to make farming more streamlined as him or give him another way to access garden crops for more convivence in accessing his dishes. The reason being I feel like people get burned out gardening as him by the time they try to use his other dishes so I feel like it'd increase his play rate with people who don't plan to be the team's kitchen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroite Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, EthanTheMime said: 1. let meatballs ignore his "cant eat the same food" mechanic I really hope that this will never happen, for meatballs or any other crockpot recipe. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanTheMime Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, EthanTheMime said: here's some unlock ideas: 1. let meatballs ignore his "cant eat the same food" mechanic 2. another down the same meatball path which will make the saturation you get from meatballs increase with how many you have eaten in succession 3. get rid of his spices and stuff (i think its kinda confusing and bloats the game) (/s) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowick Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I had an idea where Warly could use petals in the grinding mill to make some petal garnish that gives +10 sanity to any dish! I think it would be a nice early game support option. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copyafriend Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I’m hoping for a food specific speed boost, id prefer it to not be warly specific but id take it if it was Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149523-which-path-to-follow-with-warly/#findComment-1650853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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