Do you like to farm but don't want to do it every year to prevent seeds from spoiling or having to fight the annoying bee?

[Wonz]

Well i don't I like to make a break from it. If i farmed again every season to make sure my seeds won't die I would just burn out and start disliking it.  

But if I don't farm each crop I want to use the seeds will rot after a year. 

Why not farm just one every year? 
Because not all crops like all seasons you can't farm just once a year.   

I just wanted to suggest some sort of bundling wrap that's easier to get than bundling wrap but works only on seeds so you can farm when you need without worrying about your farm progress will have to start over from the seeds birds leave on the ground.   

First i wanted to suggest it as wormwood perk but warly might need crops more than he does so i believe it should be recipe for everyone.  

Bee queen is either hard as heck or cheesy and ofc the blueprint goes only to one player. 

 

Also balancewise though food balance flew out of the window thanks to stonefruits:
You can't eat seeds from bag, if they land in it you will have to use for example "Seed bag" on farming tile to plant the seed there. Seed bags work like watering cans maybe, except you don't put ice into it to recharge it but seeds. Unless making them stack up to 20 or 40 and combining bad with seed would result in "asparagus seed bag" which stack. This way you could share them. 

[Wonz]

54 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

That why we need a better petal farm:

Happens only during event. Many of us plays pubs too which don't always have all sorts of events enabled by default. Think about everyone. This game came up with multiplayer in mind, hence it's "together" so the best should be done for it encourage playing with others in pubs for example.  

54 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

That why we need a better petal farm:

Also that's 4 wraps for 1 petal that's 16 slots, there are 14 crops out of like 8 is worth it. And it works on any item, that's why it's locked in winter event. Ridiculous and you say you need new farming method for 1 petal.  That hard to find one flower in a year?

[Cassielu]

1 hour ago, Habakkuk said:

That why we need a better petal farm:

good point, but what about the other eleven month of the year?

[Cassielu]

48 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

[chirsg]

I like winter's feast. I think it's overpowered, but at the same time, I wouldn't want it to go away.

Having said that, there is a rudimentary craving for challenge and as a result, survival worlds on most playthroughs will have all events set to auto.

Try to understand when I say toggling events is a way of playing god. 

I too am a little bit deterred from farming because food production does get a bit insane when you put the work in, but the work tends to slip through your fingers when you've created so much food, that you couldn't possibly eat all the yield without defeating arguably the most difficult boss in the entire game.

Having said all this, I can't provide any alternatives, as farming is something I can't passionately weigh in on. 

I don't farm enough to have earned a say, but my 2 cents is that for me, the excess yield and having to organize everything that I've grown is something that doesn't encourage me to farm so much.

[chirsg]

Just now, Habakkuk said:

Bee queen is so easy bro.

thanks. 

You must have an exceptional bench press and a very nice yacht too.

[Copyafriend]

3 minutes ago, chirsg said:

thanks. 

You must have an exceptional bench press and a very nice yacht too.

How do i like a post twice?

1 hour ago, Habakkuk said:

Some people (me included) see turning on events for advantages as cheating unless the run is designed for it.

secondly bro what on earth could you POSSIBLY be doing to need SO MANY WRAPS CONSTANTLY, and still not just… use bundling wrap as well? Or if you’re in the super lategame megabasing stage… just.. 

Make more chests?

[Copyafriend]

3 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

Let me know something guys, how many days you survive in pubs?

Let me know something guy

why do you think that question matters?

even it i answer that i spent a full 24 hours awake in a pub to survive as long ad reasonably possible, its still going to be shorter than your (probable) megabase.

but honestly what if i play in pubs every day? What if i have spent 10000 hours playing in pubs with strangers?

each “surviving pubs” would likely be 20-50 days, but do you think it matters less because its shorter “survival times”

do you think a player who is newer to the game matters less than you because they aren't as experienced or because they havent playef as much as you.

honestly i’m not sure where you were going with that line of questioning, but I’m already pretty mad at whay it implies.

[Jakepeng99]

4 hours ago, Wonz said:

Well i don't I like to make a break from it. If i farmed again every season to make sure my seeds won't die I would just burn out and start disliking it.  

But if I don't farm each crop I want to use the seeds will rot after a year. 

Why not farm just one every year? 
Because not all crops like all seasons you can't farm just once a year.   

I just wanted to suggest some sort of bundling wrap that's easier to get than bundling wrap but works only on seeds so you can farm when you need without worrying about your farm progress will have to start over from the seeds birds leave on the ground.   

First i wanted to suggest it as wormwood perk but warly might need crops more than he does so i believe it should be recipe for everyone.  

Bee queen is either hard as heck or cheesy and ofc the blueprint goes only to one player. 

 

Also balancewise though food balance flew out of the window thanks to stonefruits:
You can't eat seeds from bag, if they land in it you will have to use for example "Seed bag" on farming tile to plant the seed there. Seed bags work like watering cans maybe, except you don't put ice into it to recharge it but seeds. Unless making them stack up to 20 or 40 and combining bad with seed would result in "asparagus seed bag" which stack. This way you could share them. 

I think they should just make the seed packet make seeds never rot instead, and let back packs be opened from the floor like chests.

[Copyafriend]

8 minutes ago, Habakkuk said:

When I said that? Please show me.

Because if I said that I need to ask sorry, but I don't think like that.

You didnt…

yet?

thats just what asking “how long do you survive in pubs” leads to in my head at least.

so tell me, what WERE you going to say if i said say.. 20 days?

[Copyafriend]

1 minute ago, Habakkuk said:

Because if you guys play only 20 days you don't need new Bundling Wraps to save seeds for more than one years =).

I am trying to understand why someone who plays in a pub for  just a few days is so desperated for wraps to save seeds for the next year in game.  Can you please show me how those arguments presented here by you guys make any sense?

Uh A: i dont actually play in pubs much, i’m just defending people who do.

B: i farm a LOT when i play as wormwood, and nothing is more annoying than my seeds spoiling just because i didnt plant them for a season or two (i typically have 3 fridges, there isnt always room for my seeds in a fridge, i could build more but i build flingos and dont like to rush the ruins

C: why are you obsessed with petals? Almost every post ive ever seen you make involves you begging for more petals, to fuel your specific need to use gift wraps in your game, even though that is a seasonal optional event and you are not intended to use it as your primary storage mechanism. Just use bundling wraps like the other megabasers, you can make huge grass fields to fuel your needs.

finally:

guys i had a good idea, what if seeds when they spoiled, instead turn into “dried seed”. Its completely inedible and needs to be watered to grow, but lasts indefinitely in a storage container

[goblinball]

I think the current spot seeds and bundle wraps are in rn is fine 

idk what your farming playstyle is like, but usually for me I’m going to be farming the first few seasons regardless because that’s when food actually kinda matters a bit and I want to get as many different crop seeds as I can to start getting giants asap.

then I’ll usually kill bq on the first spring (if there’s a wendy in the server, bq dies first autumn) and I’m good for bundling my seeds. Even if someone else gets the first bundle wrap I’m fine, since I just ask them to bundle all my seeds that aren’t dragonfruit/toma root seeds until next fall, and by then bq has already respawned probably.

[Popian]

There's planting fields in caves and letting them regrow through their cycles, or growing them in darkness and timing their light source to end just before they ripen.

[goatt]

5 hours ago, Wonz said:

I just wanted to suggest some sort of bundling wrap that's easier to get than bundling wrap but works only on seeds so you can farm when you need without worrying about your farm progress will have to start over from the seeds birds leave on the ground. 

That makes sense.

I wanna build on top of the idea (because brainstorm is fun). So this weaker version of the bundling wrap only has 1 slot instead of 4. It can only store seeds. But unlike the bundling wrap that hides information of its content, this seed version tells you what seeds are inside.

call it seed envelope.

Recipe: 1 bee wax + 10 papyrus, output 10 seed envelope. Require alchemy engine to prototype.

Seed Pack-It can also store seed envelopes.

Why only 1 slot? Because its main purpose is for preservation, not preservation and storage.

[Captain_Rage]

Ask your friend on Steam to pick up and hold the seeds and join and leave the game exactly when you need them to.

[MondayNight]

6 hours ago, Wonz said:

I just wanted to suggest some sort of bundling wrap that's easier to get than bundling wrap but works only on seeds so you can farm when you need without worrying about your farm progress will have to start over from the seeds birds leave on the ground.

If you're on PC you can use this mod: Seed Pouches.

Spoiler

If you don't have a PC but play on some console.. buy a PC. Is cheap. And so much more useful. Yes, Mike, it most definitely includes you

 

[Baark0]

Man if only DST had a backpack exclusively for seeds, and maybe that backpack could stop the spoilage of seeds so it's actually useful compared to an ice box, guess we'll never know what that timeline looks like.

[Wonz]

32 minutes ago, Baark0 said:

Man if only DST had a backpack exclusively for seeds, and maybe that backpack could stop the spoilage of seeds so it's actually useful compared to an ice box, guess we'll never know what that timeline looks like.

If it stopped it would be cool but for now it's just like 2 iceboxes

3 hours ago, Habakkuk said:

Let me know something guys, how many days you survive in pubs?

Been playing on pub that lets players only if they played 20 days on secondary server, the griefing was greatly reduced. We've had health numbers of players for first maybe 2000 days.    

Been day when I left wraps near sings describing what's inside only to see next irl day them opened and rotten in nearby icebox, one of players a bit later came to apologize saying they didn't know they can't bundle them back without blueprint.  

Been months ago but that's my recent screenshot.

That's a pub, not so long to day 4000

Anyway 

Why does it even matter? 
Farming progress going down the drain because you wanted to have a break from it sucks. Period.

[ButterStuffed]

This may not be what you're looking for, but rotten giant crops drop a single seed of their respective crop. Since giant rotten crops can't rot any more than they already are it is effectively a tedious, but infinite means of storing seeds.

[SirToastyToes]

With a Seed Pack-It your seeds will last 60 days. If you factor in that 15 of those days are likely Winter that also give a 25% reduction in spoilage and you get ~70 days of spoilage, well over an entire year and multiple tens of days over the 50-55 days that it takes to get all the way back to the start of the season if you're ONLY farming in one season.

If you want to take a longer break from farming than an entire year you can kill Bee Queen for it.

[Wonz]

1 hour ago, ButterStuffed said:

This may not be what you're looking for, but rotten giant crops drop a single seed of their respective crop. Since giant rotten crops can't rot any more than they already are it is effectively a tedious, but infinite means of storing seeds.

I know about it, thing is it consumes a lot of time and another field where they will lay upon. To harvest giant you hit it with a hammer, to do so with rotten one you do the longer animation then have to kill two fruit flies that compared to storing them in some container is just goofy choice, only time I rot giants on purpose to flex on local wortox how i can grow 80 souls on 4 tiles for him.

[Evelo]

2 hours ago, MostMerryTomcat said:

If you don't have a PC but play on some console.. buy a PC. Is cheap. And so much more useful. Yes, Mike, it most definitely includes you

Mike gave a very valid and completely understandable reason for this. Please be respectful of console players. I held the same sentiment as you before.

[MondayNight]

1 hour ago, Evelo said:

Mike gave a very valid and completely understandable reason for this. Please be respectful of console players. I held the same sentiment as you before.

Props to him if Mike still has 18 irl friends (emphasizing friends, and not acquaintances) in adult life with whom he actively keeps in touch; and does so to the point of playing this game online enough to matter that much into not switching to a superior (from any pov) rig. Most people seldom remain with 2-3 friends by the time they hit 30s, more-so if the propinquity effect is not in place for various, often inexorable reasons. Or the ever-shifting personal preferences in media we consume, hobbies, etc we might share with said friends. Even if he chose out of a loyalty sense his friends over comfortable entertainment experience (a noble thing to do), it won't change the fact consoles will never be as good in versatility and performance as a PCs. Sure, console players can always pinpoint to devs issues they recurrently encounter on technical grounds; but then also complaining all time console play "is so much worse than PC", that PC players have it "so easy compared to consoles" or "you PC people should try console to see how horrid X/Y/Z controls/mechanics are" ad nauseam when we all know that and you yourself chose to stick with the console (no matter the reason)... that's on you, as "dedicated console player", really.

[chirsg]

7 hours ago, Captain_Rage said:

friend

[Masked Koopa]

Perhaps you could add a "spice" that is silica gel, which can be used to keep seeds fresh longer IRL, but is not fit for human consumption. Seeds "spiced" with silica gel would no longer spoil, but also either be inedible, or would outright drain your character's stats if eaten.