Mike23Ua Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I want to start this post by stating that as of just the other day my stupid Xbox Series S glitched the game out on me and deleted all my world saves it even wiped out my longest standing “Mega-Base” world where I had completely redesigned the Oasis. This bug doesn’t appear to be exclusive to Xbox, as I’ve seen in the bug tracker that it’s also happening to PlayStation players as well. Xbox & PlayStation are limited to only having 5 World Save Slots & I could’ve understood ONE world getting corrupted but all of my saves? You can’t back up or reverse these changes so it’s either: Start Over, or Stop Playing.. This got me to thinking that maybe it’s not a glitch/bug and is instead some stealthy way of deleting peoples mega-bases so Klei can then add whatever they want to the game without needing to design content around peoples already established mega-base builds. I mean sure.. it would Suck having to start over & lose all your progress- but if it’s happening on Xbox & PlayStation, other platforms are in jeopardy of having this happen too. And with the Death of (My) Mega-Bases.. it feels as if Klei can literally just wipe the slate clean and force us all to start over experiencing a completely Redesigned Dont Starve. This is by far the worst bug I’ve seen happening with this game, but now that it HAS Happened and all my progress has been wiped (minus my skins & purchased characters thankfully..) I’m less clingy to “Current DST” and am ready to fully embrace those big world altering changes such as busting that large cluster of mainland biomes apart across the ocean into archipelagos or even something completely brand new such as elevated platforms of land with hills and slopes. Content that plain and simply: Couldn’t be retrofitted into these long lasting worlds. This “Bug” could actually be a blessing in disguise and sure it means the death of our current Megabases we’ve built up.. But in my opinion it would be NO DIFFERENT from buying an actual Don’t Starve 2- And having to start over and having to build new bases with the new games features & mechanics Anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1. You actually mega-base? I thought you're the hardcore uncompromising survival player, how could you join those baby mega-basers who cry over everything? /j 2. 16 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: This got me to thinking that maybe it’s not a glitch/bug and is instead some stealthy way of deleting peoples mega-bases so Klei can then add whatever they want to the game without needing to design content around peoples already established mega-base builds. This is ridiculous. What's the point of doing this? They can just revert boulders changes etc etc if they really hate building a base. No, they're not against basing, they're against sitting in base afk and not adventuring. They wouldn't destroy your save files on purpose for reasons this silly. 3. A few posts ago you talked about how klei doesn't dare adding environmental hazards because it would effect selling pretty skins to mega-basers, and now you say they deliberately erase mega-basers' save files so they can add more destructive elements? Please, stop contradicting yourself. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viberr Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: This got me to thinking that maybe it’s not a glitch/bug and is instead some stealthy way of deleting peoples mega-bases so Klei can then add whatever they want to the game without needing to design content around peoples already established mega-base builds. woah! my brain somehow just lost brain cells instantly! that's impressive I really do hope this is a joke and that you're pulling a little funny on us but if not, someone's gotta go put a tinfoil hat on your head 2 minutes ago, _zwb said: 3. A few posts ago you talked about how klei doesn't dare adding environmental hazards because it would effect selling pretty skins to mega-basers, and now you say they deliberately erase mega-basers' save files so they can add more destructive elements? Please, stop contradicting yourself. Mike is a very special person. his opinions change in mere seconds and are never the same his ideologies are beyond the understanding of normal people he is simply ahead of his time Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, viberr said: Mike is a very special person. his opinions change in mere seconds and are never the same If that's true, I can't really take anything he says seriously. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 Nothing in my post states anything about wanting base destroying features… HOWEVER- “Current” Bases would need to be Destroyed for huge foundational changes to happen to the way the game generates biomes and resources. to put this into words anyone can understand- Klei can’t add mountains and hills or bust the mainland apart into archipelagos because of peoples map wide spanning bases. However if this Bug/Glitch was to wipe out everyone’s created worlds, It would literally be no different from you buying a brand new Dont starve game and having to start over anyway. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viberr Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, _zwb said: If that's true, I can't really take anything he says seriously. it was meant as a joke, but I wouldn't really be surprised if he was like that I wan in the forums back in 2020 and he's still the same he at least knows about all the extra bosses now ( don't know if he's defeated them though) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, viberr said: it was meant as a joke, but I wouldn't really be surprised if he was like that I wan in the forums back in 2020 and he's still the same he at least knows about all the extra bosses now ( don't know if he's defeated them though) No he hasn't, too difficult to solo apparently. I'd say it's skill issue Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GelatinousCube Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: This got me to thinking that maybe it’s not a glitch/bug and is instead some stealthy way of deleting peoples mega-bases so Klei can then add whatever they want to the game without needing to design content around peoples already established mega-base builds. Shirley you cannot be serious... 30 minutes ago, _zwb said: If that's true, I can't really take anything he says seriously. Nor should you 31 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Nothing in my post states anything about wanting base destroying features No but should we link your thousand other posts in other threads that do have you advocating for more base destruction? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanasdf Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, GelatinousCube said: Shirley you cannot be serious... I am serious, and don't call me Shirley Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 You guys missed the point- so let me simplify it for you- I can provide links to several Xbox, PlayStation and today: PC players who are losing their gameplay progress with the game forcing them to start over by wiping out all their save files. Rather this is Intentional on Klei’s behalf or not… there’s no denying that it isn’t coincidental. the only platform so far that I HAVENT seen this bug be reported for yet is Nintendo Switch, but I’m assuming one of Klei’s recent update builds “Broke” the game.. with so many peoples saves being completely wiped… now is as good a time as ANY to force everyone to start over with new rules and maybe even a brand new game engine for the game. It’s like playing on Ark Survival Evolved Legacy Servers only for those servers to get Wiped Clean and everyone forcefully having to start over. Guess what?? They’re forcing everyone to start over AGAIN later this year too when they shut down ASE servers and wipe them clean for ASA Servers. Do I like it??? No.. do I feel like all my literal years worth of progress has been thrown down the drain?? Yes.. will I start over with ASA? Probably not… But the whole point is if Klei’s game is already mass wiping player save files: Now is as good a time as any to just start all over again with a clean slate & new foundational changing ideas. Beat around the bush all you like: But in reality… Klei is trying to accommodate modern day content and ideas into a 10+ yr old outdated game. All this thread was made for was to suggest that SINCE Xbox, PlayStation (& now PC Players) are reporting lost progress- Maybe it’s time we start over. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardcrumb Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Snip Mike, you remember the red ring of death for the xbox 360? I don't think Microsoft put that to make people buy xbox ones. Besides, this is against EU regulations if it was true, and I don't think klei can fight that fight. It's just plain bad luck. Happened to me too. The only thing to do is move on and give klei as much documentation as possible to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulisesvolador Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I think is sad that Klei hasn't fixed this old bug yet, or at least give an explanation of why isn't fixed yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Mike: Hates megabasers, and love mechanics that destroy bases Also Mike: Make a megabase Also also Mike: Have that megabase gone and angry about it because he lost the progress. Also also also Mike: "I want this to happen to other megabasers too, destroy them all" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baark0 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I've lost a handful of long term worlds before. The first world I killed fuelweaver on was lost because it wouldn't retrofit the ocean. Nothing you can do but start from scratch, it sucks but if I'm being honest I enjoy the new experiences I get from new worlds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Dude... if they want to add big changes like the archipelago (which I want them to do myself) they can simply just choose to make that a 'break point' and past that not retrofit the new stuff into worlds created before that update. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Ulisesvolador said: I think is sad that Klei hasn't fixed this old bug yet, or at least give an explanation of why isn't fixed yet. This bug has been reported on Xbox, PlayStation and as of this morning.. PC- How did such a massive bug slip through to so many platforms? It should’ve been caught and fixed by now. The only platform that’s NOT currently reporting this bug is Nintendo Switch.. and I’m assuming it’s because Switch has yet to catch up to the other platforms in patch build. Whatever the case maybe- there’s enough players losing a ton of progress that if Klei wanted to… They can redesign the entire game with things like a Cooking or Combat Overhaul. I’m sure the few lucky players who have yet to lose their data will be angry.. but if there’s more players with lost data then there are who still have it- maybe this could ease us into a hard reset of features, mechanics, mob behavior, etc. If Nothing else: there’s less players Klei needs to try to Retrofit New Content into Decade old worlds for now.. so they can reserve the new features for that drop off point. Which is kinda what they did with Lunar/Shadow Rifts anyway: Are you sure you want to activate this?? (Gives shard to Charlie/Wagstaff) okay.. but you asked for it! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Seems like another reason to make the switch to PC... why aren't you on PC yet mike? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notecja Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Evelo said: Seems like another reason to make the switch to PC... why aren't you on PC yet mike? Well he once actually explained that once on off-topic, while it was a long sad post, I am unsure if I want bring it bad. I feel forever uneasy for Mike after reading it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamehun20 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: and as of this morning.. PC- No it hasn't? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulisesvolador Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: of this morning.. PC- Not really, it was just a person that was unable to download the new beta but not data loss as far as we know. 47 minutes ago, Evelo said: Seems like another reason to make the switch to PC... why aren't you on PC yet mike? ... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted July 8, 2023 Author Share Posted July 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Evelo said: Seems like another reason to make the switch to PC... why aren't you on PC yet mike? There’s several reasons for that actually- but the most obvious one is that all my friends are on Xbox Live.. and by buying a PC I abandon the 18 or so people I have bought this game for. Sure I COULD'VE bought a PC some time ago.. but I represent a group of people these forums try to constantly shove under a bus.. The Console players, everyone tells me to switch to PC but very very few people actually help contribute towards the REAL Problem: Making the console version just as good as PC. If Klei ever creates cross-platform gameplay for DST I might “Might” move to PC.. but- I already own the game on Xbox, and rather than abandoning it for being a bad PC Port, I’d prefer it if the Developers just took 2-3 months off constant content updates.. and instead worked strictly on optimizing the Console Experience. Is that selfish or unreasonable of me to ask?? Perhaps- But it’s better than abandoning console & moving over to Pc just because Console version isn’t up to par with PC. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spino43 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: There’s several reasons for that actually- but the most obvious one is that all my friends are on Xbox Live.. and by buying a PC I abandon the 18 or so people I have bought this game for. Sure I COULD'VE bought a PC some time ago.. but I represent a group of people these forums try to constantly shove under a bus.. The Console players, everyone tells me to switch to PC but very very few people actually help contribute towards the REAL Problem: Making the console version just as good as PC. If Klei ever creates cross-platform gameplay for DST I might “Might” move to PC.. but- I already own the game on Xbox, and rather than abandoning it for being a bad PC Port, I’d prefer it if the Developers just took 2-3 months off constant content updates.. and instead worked strictly on optimizing the Console Experience. Is that selfish or unreasonable of me to ask?? Perhaps- But it’s better than abandoning console & moving over to Pc just because Console version isn’t up to par with PC. You can just ask them if they also play PC, some might, and if you have the money to buy 19 copies already it shouldn't hurt to get one for yourself on PC. And unfortunately Klei always keep PC version as top priority before updating other platforms. Unless you become the head of Klei it's very unlikely to change. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Rock Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: It should’ve been caught and fixed by now. I'm not a game developer but these types of bugs seem very hard to replicate, especially since hardware quirks on consoles could have caused it. If Klei added a cloud save via Klei account feature it would definitely help stop loses of worlds on consoles without it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: There’s several reasons for that actually- but the most obvious one is that all my friends are on Xbox Live.. and by buying a PC I abandon the 18 or so people I have bought this game for. Sure I COULD'VE bought a PC some time ago.. but I represent a group of people these forums try to constantly shove under a bus.. The Console players, everyone tells me to switch to PC but very very few people actually help contribute towards the REAL Problem: Making the console version just as good as PC. If Klei ever creates cross-platform gameplay for DST I might “Might” move to PC.. but- I already own the game on Xbox, and rather than abandoning it for being a bad PC Port, I’d prefer it if the Developers just took 2-3 months off constant content updates.. and instead worked strictly on optimizing the Console Experience. Is that selfish or unreasonable of me to ask?? Perhaps- But it’s better than abandoning console & moving over to Pc just because Console version isn’t up to par with PC. Nay it is not selfish or unreasonable. Didn't consider that. Thank you so much for your contribution to the Console players. I say that genuinely. (Even though I am not among them). I hope the best and hope this gets resolved. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHollowBR Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: There’s several reasons for that actually- but the most obvious one is that all my friends are on Xbox Live.. and by buying a PC I abandon the 18 or so people I have bought this game for. Sure I COULD'VE bought a PC some time ago.. but I represent a group of people these forums try to constantly shove under a bus.. The Console players, everyone tells me to switch to PC but very very few people actually help contribute towards the REAL Problem: Making the console version just as good as PC. If Klei ever creates cross-platform gameplay for DST I might “Might” move to PC.. but- I already own the game on Xbox, and rather than abandoning it for being a bad PC Port, I’d prefer it if the Developers just took 2-3 months off constant content updates.. and instead worked strictly on optimizing the Console Experience. Is that selfish or unreasonable of me to ask?? Perhaps- But it’s better than abandoning console & moving over to Pc just because Console version isn’t up to par with PC. While you said some nonsense at the start, i couldn't agree more with you there. I don't want to switch to PC too cause Xbox is my main gameplay source. I too bought the game for Xbox, and i wish for the best to all console versions. But still... I guess it's a lost fight trying to make the devs care about these versions, If they can't even make a "solo experience" with no lag (PC doesn't have that), what can we say about these bugs... I'm not saying they're bad at it or something like that, it's just that with more updates i feel console versions gets more and more worse than before, and i still don't get why we can't get the support PC has. Well, enough of BS speaking, this will lead nowhere as most of the game fanbase core is at PC. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/149124-the-death-of-my-megabase/#findComment-1647927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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