Dextops Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 This has been getting increasingly annoying to me. I'll be wanting to do cc in one quick go cause i find the questline fun, but then i have this huge inescapable roadblock of having to wait... and wait... and wait... The questline is pretty much perfect in every other way since it takes all of the RoT and ends it off with an amazing boss but this extreme halt in gameplay just ruins my immersion and gameplay. Klei gods please just remove the cactus flower requirement. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 waiting for a season ruins your immersion and sandbox gameplay Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Well-met said: waiting for a season ruins your immersion and sandbox gameplay the quirky sandbox game that forces you to wait 8 hours to kill a boss, truly the pinnacle of player freedom Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Well-met said: waiting for a season ruins your immersion and sandbox gameplay yes it really does when I am pushing through a questline and then i have to abruptly stop and wait for no good reason. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I guess I already saw a post about this once, and people suggested to compost wrap or tree jam (i dont remember which) to be used as a fertilizer to cactus and then make it bloom, so you will be able to do pearl quests before first summer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille6785 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, dois raios said: tree jam to be used as a fertilizer to cactus and then make it bloom, so you will be able to do pearl quests before first summer with the amount of cactus flowers needed and how little glommer poops you might just end up waiting until summer anyway lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evelo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I think players should be able to get access to Cactus Flowers through other methods. Like, imagine a Cactus boss that drops 3 cactus flowers, 4 cactus and 1 living log. Something comparable to a Treeguard but easier to spawn since its soul purpose is to circumnavigate the cactus flower problem for Pearl. Kill 4 of them and boom you have 12 cactus flowers giving you one to spare for something. Plus it would be another overworld less RNG solution to acquiring living logs albeit not en masse like with Treeguards. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 You can start the game in spring, or just straight up in summer if you want to rush it even more. Spring start is usually enough for a solo gameplay entirely focused on CC to do all the previous quests and not have to wait anything. If you can do everything in less than 20 days, then you can go summer start altogether. I haven't seen anyone be able to do that so fast yet but hey, if you can, upload it somewhere. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr4zyFl4mes Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 If you're on solo world, you can tweak the settings for example make shorter seasons or begin in new one. If you're on public, I guarantee you, most players are glad they can survive winter as is. They don't need to have random lunar storm spawn in their base before they were able to make desert goggles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 is at the level of wurt tapestry needing kelp, just a bad way of forcing players needing to experience content that lack of something that make players not wanting to experience it like summer or early state of the sea. Both things, flowers and kelp, has nothing related to the structures that ask for them Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Guille6785 said: the quirky sandbox game that forces you to wait 8 hours to kill a boss, truly the pinnacle of player freedom LongUpdate(25000) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DajeKotlyar Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 You can just start in summer or spring I read a good suggestion to allow some fertilizer start blooming, like it's do with Wormwood Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YottaCat Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 OK here's the changes I'd make for the CC questline. 1: I don't think the flower requirement should be removed, but rather the flower should be accessible in all seasons. Make it so there's some random flower enemy or some **** in one of those irrelevant ass caves biomes that nobody cares about, and make them drop the flower. Or just make some plant in one of those biomes that gives the flower or something. Or maybe some other unique way, as long as it's not like painfully slow to acquire it. This not only works for the house, but for flower salad as well, it also has the additional benefit of possibly making portions of the caves more relevant. You can also remove other seasonal restrictions, but that isn't necessarily as required as cactus flowers. 2: Just remove/rework crab king. Nobody likes it, everyone cheeses it, it demotivates a lot of people to do the questline. I feel like this has been said waaaay too many times, but I have something to say: The main issue isn't really mainly the fact that it's just a bad boss, but more of it trying to utilize boating mechanics as a core part of the fight. In games, like DST, on land, you can swiftly maneuver in any directions freely with little effort. All you have to do is press a button or click with your mouse and you instantly move towards that direction with no acceleration. Unfortunately, this luxury doesn't apply to boats. If you want to move a direction on a boat, you have to walk to the other side of the boat and row. And with rowing, you have to accelerate initially if you want to move towards the directions you're headed. (And you also have sails, which by using your brain you can realize is most likely 10x worse for maneuvering) This lack of ease of movement in directions allows for a clunky and awkward dodging system which is deemed annoying for most players My suggestion is to add a reworked boss on the land itself, don't bother with water bosses. 3: Most people can agree that the moon storm portion is not fun and instead rather tedious for the second or third or just nth time around. Sure, repetition can be a good factor of something becoming boring, but I don't think it should be to the point where people don't even enjoy it after the second time around. I don't have a solution to rework or add to the moonstorm itself, my best suggestion is to shorten the time, but idk. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 makes more sense these recipes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share Posted October 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: makes more sense these recipes goddamn that was quick Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Alternatively… They could’ve just let that weird portal on Moon Quay spit out Cactus Flowers. Why waste a thing that’s literally a dimensional rift spitting out resources? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoIIo Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Cr4zyFl4mes said: If you're on solo world, you can tweak the settings for example make shorter seasons or begin in new one. If you're on public, I guarantee you, most players are glad they can survive winter as is. They don't need to have random lunar storm spawn in their base before they were able to make desert goggles. The average pub player will thank you for not dying to charlie daily, methinks. Pubs that get to that point almost always keep it on. Besides the "less-skilled" players all huddle up at oasis no matter what anyway, so a couple minutes of moonstorms aren't too different. If anything it'll make them realize that afking at base and asking for food periodically is basically more hazardous for their own survival than most things outside of the pre-built base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrocator Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 11 hours ago, ArubaroBeefalo said: makes more sense these recipes New recipes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/143633-the-cc-summer-restriction/#findComment-1601690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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