blacknight7890 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I don't think we really need 7 slots. 6 is a nice even number and it keeps things simple. If the light module was 3 slots instead of 4 then that would sort of allow the builds most people want with 7 slots, but without actually needing a 7th slot. Plus, if there's a 7th slot, then most combos like 3 2.0 speed, 1 1.0 speed, or two 3 prongs will always have an empty slot that currently can only be filled by the basic health module. The only people it would benefit are those who like to minmax their builds, and I don't think that's who klei should balance the character for. 6 is perfectly fine as is, it's even, it's balanced, and it make it so you can't have moggels and a temp module at the same time. You need to actually choose between them instead of making the "perfect" build. Just make sleeping recharge faster so it's easier to swap between builds and we're golden. Edit: Also, the only builds I can think of that would cleanly fill a 7 slot board is two 2 prongs and one 3 prong, or one 4 prong and a 3 prong. Everything else either has one spare, or needs a 5 prong, which no longer exists at the time of writing. Meanwhile with 6 slots, most combos make a clean 6 unless you mix 2 prongs and 3 prongs. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 The "perfect" build already exists, it's 3x speed and can be done with 6 slots. The point of 7 slots would be to make other builds not be THAT bad relative to 3x speed Build variety is also sad and bad with 6 slots Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 actually the "perfect" build now is moggels+speed2.0, not much reason to choose others it is a acceptable choice, and it's probably the answer to the game, I'll try to get used to that let's hope new circuits will be added to the game during next several content updates Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, leo920101 said: actually the "perfect" build now is moggels+speed2.0 that is, in fact, not the perfect build Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, reallychina said: that is, in fact, not the perfect build Like I said, there is no "perfect" build because everyone's definition will differ. I think this is a perfect fine phenomenon, gives people something to consider. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, reallychina said: it's 3x speed I'm a beffalo rider 3x speed alone can not beat a beffalo, not with a cane either. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, blacknight7890 said: Like I said, there is no "perfect" build because everyone's definition will differ. I think this is a perfect fine phenomenon, gives people something to consider. perfect means best/powerful. best is 3x speed 1 speed 1 moggles is the most convenient while still being powerful, but falls short of 3x speed 1 minute ago, leo920101 said: I'm a beffalo rider 3x speed alone can not beat a beffalo, not with a cane either. if your beef can beat 3x speed cane and magi, i'll buy that beef from you Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, reallychina said: if your beef can beat 3x speed cane and magi, i'll buy that beef from you if your magi can also be used with a backpack, I'll like to see that magi too. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, leo920101 said: if your magi can also be used with a backpack, I'll like to see that magi too. if you can't manage your inventory well enough for a magi, that's a you problem, not a magi problem Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartzBeam Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, reallychina said: best is 3x speed Putting aside the fact that you can't really talk about "best" in a sandbox game where you make your own goals, that 3rd speed chip only offers a 7% increase in speed. I'd certainly take an extra 150 health over that. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo920101 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, reallychina said: if you can't manage your inventory well enough for a magi, that's a you problem, not a magi problem oh, is that so? I'll keep the following words to my own, and sincerely wait to see how many people agree with you and your 3x speed Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 You know.. Technically Klei could add 14 slots and it wouldn’t be OP but they would have to rework how circuits work. Have you ever tried to plug the wrong wattage fuse or lightbulb or charger up? Most the time it doesn’t get enough power, or it gets too much power and it blows the fuse. For that to work in DST.. Klei would have to Color Code each equip-able slot (for example Green, Red, Yellow, Blue) and then re-design the circuits so that they can only be applied to their respective color slot so if Klei wants say Speed, and the Moggles like ability to be Blue circuits- The player will then need to choose between infinite night vision or a speed boost. You wouldn’t be able to plug a Yellow Circuit into the Blue Slot… or- maybe you could…. But there could be consequences. If I worked at Klei (I don’t but if I did) i would give you more slots than you ever asked for, but to make sure your not just going to stack speed… i would force you to only be able to use the appropriate fuse color- Or Else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Guy000 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: For that to work in DST.. Klei would have to Color Code each equip-able slot (for example Green, Red, Yellow, Blue) and then re-design the circuits so that they can only be applied to their respective color slot so if Klei wants say Speed, and the Moggles like ability to be Blue circuits- The player will then need to choose between infinite night vision or a speed boost. You wouldn’t be able to plug a purple Yellow Circuit into the Blue Slot… or- maybe you could… No. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 All I know is 1 extra slot or an infinite extra slots isn't going to make most people want the really lackluster circuits. I'd like to see all the circuits become more balanced before more slots are even considered. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Just now, Random Guy000 said: No. Here’s a tip, I use the shop cat emote as the most honorable highest prestige emote I can possibly give as a reaction, so whenever someone replies to my posts with ShopCat- it means they approve of the post with the highest seal of approval. The Klei Dev Team was once asked if Ancient Guardian would get reworked: And one of the devs reacted to that users message with ShopCat teasing there was still a rework for AG coming. So.. to use ShopCat in a negative way is insulting to not just me, but to that dev who reacted with ShopCat. Anyway- the fact your saying No. proves that people are uncomfortable when they’re forced to make choices. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theukon-dos Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: You know.. Technically Klei could add 14 slots and it wouldn’t be OP but they would have to rework how circuits work. Have you ever tried to plug the wrong wattage fuse or lightbulb or charger up? Most the time it doesn’t get enough power, or it gets too much power and it blows the fuse. For that to work in DST.. Klei would have to Color Code each equip-able slot (for example Green, Red, Yellow, Blue) and then re-design the circuits so that they can only be applied to their respective color slot so if Klei wants say Speed, and the Moggles like ability to be Blue circuits- The player will then need to choose between infinite night vision or a speed boost. You wouldn’t be able to plug a Yellow Circuit into the Blue Slot… or- maybe you could…. But there could be consequences. If I worked at Klei (I don’t but if I did) i would give you more slots than you ever asked for, but to make sure your not just going to stack speed… i would force you to only be able to use the appropriate fuse color- Or Else. Has it occured to you that, as a robot, WX-78 would understand the importance of things like "Wattage' and "Compatability", and thus would design all of their circuits to be compatible with their hardware? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Man this topic got spicy. Please keep things under some vague illusion of civil, I don't want JoeW to bring down the hammer here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlrust Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 slots is good, it gives players a lot of options for combinations while also making them choose. You can't get night vision and infinite heat in Winter, you have to choose which one to benefit from more. I'd rather have more 1-slot circuits for minor perks and stat boosts. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Guy000 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: Here’s a tip, I use the shop cat emote as the most honorable highest prestige emote I can possibly give as a reaction, so whenever someone replies to my posts with ShopCat- it means they approve of the post with the highest seal of approval. The Klei Dev Team was once asked if Ancient Guardian would get reworked: And one of the devs reacted to that users message with ShopCat teasing there was still a rework for AG coming. So.. to use ShopCat in a negative way is insulting to not just me, but to that dev who reacted with ShopCat. Anyway- the fact your saying No. proves that people are uncomfortable when they’re forced to make choices. I just like the funny cat emote Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, QuartzBeam said: Putting aside the fact that you can't really talk about "best" in a sandbox game where you make your own goals, that 3rd speed chip only offers a 7% increase in speed. I'd certainly take an extra 150 health over that. yes you can. that's why wes is objectively worst, wilson is better than wes and wolfgang is better than both. There is no situation where that is not the case. health is meaningless when there's armor in the game 12 minutes ago, leo920101 said: oh, is that so? I'll keep the following words to my own, and sincerely wait to see how many people agree with you and your 3x speed it doesn't matter how many people agree or not. the whole forum could agree wes is best, that doesn't mean wes is best. by the way 3x speed cane wx is faster than glossamer beefalo, without considering the drawbacks of using a beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacknight7890 Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Owlrust said: 6 slots is good, it gives players a lot of options for combinations while also making them choose. You can't get night vision and infinite heat in Winter, you have to choose which one to benefit from more. I'd rather have more 1-slot circuits for minor perks and stat boosts. I agree, health is neat, but some other minor perks would be nice to have, like the other stats, or some other unique thing. 8 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Anyway- the fact your saying No. proves that people are uncomfortable when they’re forced to make choices. 8 hours ago, reallychina said: it doesn't matter how many people agree or not. the whole forum could agree wes is best, that doesn't mean wes is best. 9 hours ago, leo920101 said: I'll keep the following words to my own, and sincerely wait to see how many people agree with you and your 3x speed Again, please keep things civil, I really don't want this thread to get hit by the lock hammer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallychina Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, blacknight7890 said: Again, please keep things civil, I really don't want this thread to get hit by the lock hammer. Can you show me something uncivil that i have said? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1560930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopuleasa Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 6 slots is fine reworked wx is already way better than old wx if you needed 300+ all stats, you were bad at the game Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1561077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1561081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowlVoid Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 14 hours ago, loopuleasa said: 6 slots is fine reworked wx is already way better than old wx if you needed 300+ all stats, you were bad at the game OOP, finally someone said it. Stats don't make a difference whether you raise them or lower them. Stats aren't dynamic in and of themselves, it's how they interact with other variables that makes them interesting (these modules don't do that). Though maybe SOMEONES out there will use them and that's their business. 20 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Here’s a tip, I use the shop cat emote as the most honorable highest prestige emote I can possibly give as a reaction, so whenever someone replies to my posts with ShopCat- it means they approve of the post with the highest seal of approval. The Klei Dev Team was once asked if Ancient Guardian would get reworked: And one of the devs reacted to that users message with ShopCat teasing there was still a rework for AG coming. So.. to use ShopCat in a negative way is insulting to not just me, but to that dev who reacted with ShopCat. Anyway- the fact your saying No. proves that people are uncomfortable when they’re forced to make choices. Hi, I have about 3 Mike shopcats, so what do I get? What can I turn these in for? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/139453-i-think-6-slots-is-perfectly-fine/#findComment-1561085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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