question How To Make Dupes Pass A Point One At A Time?

[goatt 333]

... in all scenarios?

The video shows a hard problem for me when dupes queue up, plus that 2 of them have the same speed.

[gabberworld 352]

not sure if you can todo that, but i to see some scenarios where it could be usefull

[Gurgel 2981]

I don't think that can work reliably.

[ghkbrew 641]

How about with single suit docks? You could set up a bunch of one suit (oxygen mask) check points in parallel and allow access to them in sequence whenever a dupe walks through. They can drop off suits immediately after checkpoint if they're not needed.

[goatt 333]

23 hours ago, ghkbrew said:

How about with single suit docks? You could set up a bunch of one suit (oxygen mask) check points in parallel and allow access to them in sequence whenever a dupe walks through. They can drop off suits immediately after checkpoint if they're not needed.

does this involve a lot of manual "deliver suit" and "unlock suit"

[Jann5s 79]

i never had a use case for the dupe checkpoint, what are you using it for?

If i want to limit the number of dupes in an area, I use atmo suit docks (or the new face mask docks) like @ghkbrew suggested. But I'm thinking that you have a different use case.

 

[Occam Blazer 144]

Someone on reddit got close.

 

[goatt 333]

16 hours ago, Jann5s said:

i never had a use case for the dupe checkpoint, what are you using it for?

If i want to limit the number of dupes in an area, I use atmo suit docks (or the new face mask docks) like @ghkbrew suggested. But I'm thinking that you have a different use case.

 

6 toilet 1 sink.

[Prince Mandor 192]

4 hours ago, goatt said:

6 toilet 1 sink

Any meaningful scheme will be more complicated and space consuming than just adding another 2x3 sink

But you can add combination of dupe detector, not-gate and door after each toilet, so dupe can move ahead only if nobody there. this also needs ability to enter toilets from orthogonal direction, from top or bottom. And some logic to disallow usage of toilet while previous user still in line to go out...

or put toilets in a column and allow exits from toilets in order and only if nobody in a sink part of room...

So, it is possible, but complicated and space consuming

On 8/5/2021 at 4:57 AM, goatt said:

does this involve a lot of manual "deliver suit" and "unlock suit"

You don't need to allow them to use this face mask dock, only open path throw them to separate one dupe from the crowd (if there are only one dock, only one dupe path will be build), and after that close path through dock and open another way

[goatt 333]

1 hour ago, Prince Mandor said:

Any meaningful scheme will be more complicated and space consuming than just adding another 2x3 sink

Some background: I was interested in the engineering possibility in the simulator. Since I couldn't figure it out, I posted here for help. It could also be the situation where dupes rushes back into base in downtime queuing up at ore scrubber.

But after all, there is no simple solution I guess

[ghkbrew 641]

6 hours ago, goatt said:

there is no simple solution I guess

This is the smallest/simplest I could do:

It uses the same principles as the Reddit build, but significantly optimized automation and layout.

Because only one dupe will try to path through the oxygen mask station at a time, only one dupe will go to the checkpoint.  When he does, the weight plate activates the memory toggle.  When that happens 4 things happen in sequence:

1) the far left door closes to prevent any other dupes from entering until the system resets.

2) the middle door opens to allow the straight though path to the goal.

3) the bottom door closes  to prevent the dupe from going though the mask station.  This has to happen after 2) or the dupes path will be briefly interrupted and they will abandon their task.

4) the checkpoint is given a green signal and the dupe is allowed to pass.

A falling edge detector on the motion sensor detects when dupe has left the area and resets the system for the next dupe.

 

13 hours ago, goatt said:

6 toilet 1 sink.

To use this for sinks, just put the motion sensor after the sink.

[kbn 298]

11 hours ago, ghkbrew said:

This is the smallest/simplest I could do:

I don't know if this will work because it's a bit of an idea, but it may be possible to make it even more compact by installing a door under the oxygen mask station and disabling it only when passing through the dupe.

[kbn 298]

I forcibly compressed it.
If I haven't overlooked something, I think this will probably work.

[goatt 333]

@kbn @ghkbrew

you guys are creative and smart! Thanks!

[QuantumPion 101]

Couldn't you just use two oxygen mask checkpoints, facing each other, each with one dock, set to vacancy only?

[Prince Mandor 192]

11 hours ago, QuantumPion said:

Couldn't you just use two oxygen mask checkpoints, facing each other, each with one dock, set to vacancy only?

Consider this situations.

1. Dupe come to first checkpoint. He wear mask. Now he can only go back, because this is only dock with vacancy.

2. Let second dock do not have mask. Dupe come to first checkpoint, wear mask, go to second checkpoint, leave mask there. Next dupe cannot pass -- there are no mask on first checkpoint