ONI together, results

[degr]

Today I finish my experiment with ONI-together, we was able to launch rocket into temporal rift.

Thx to everybody who play more then 20 min, special thx for anonymous user(s) who make it work first 120 cycles, and then many cycles in them middle of the game and to reddit users KittyKupo and Nidro_idratato (sorry if I write your name with mistakes, or did not mention somebody)

Game is not available anymore, save files also

 

Spoiler

 

Experiment successful, results - ONI together is bad idea. 

There was a lot of problems during gameplay, as I told many times, most important problem is communication between players. Under communication I mean not only communication channels, such as chat, voice chat or something else, but also "same state of mind" of players, which is impossible to achieve. 

Problems:

1. NIH - nobody care about somebody else builds
2. Different level of players, somebody build infinite storage, somebody 12 beach chairs for 3 duplicants
3. Some things should be complex, but when you play "together", it's pretty difficult to find some important details. For an example, once somebody release infinite storage with oxygen and as result we have 47kg of oxygen per tile in all map; somebody set "make steel infinitely" and metal refinary dump all water reserves into space, because it was way how we fought with overheating.
4. No general plan, a lot of time wasted into useless buildings. Cycle 120, almost all researches complete, but colony still in stone age era - 3 manual generators, 2 jumbo battery, 1 water sieve for toilets, dupes deliver dirt to meal lice farms, no generators etc.
5. Trolls, who deconstruct base (actually, almost not a problem, in my memory it happen only 3 times, 2 times I reload game

 

If somebody want to try to run it again by his own, let me know, I will help to setup environment.

[Tytan]

xD

who would have thought, right?

[Reitar]

As for me, the only multiplayer that would suit this game is a co-op with a friend, using voice chat. Otherwise, it's like "Tower of Babel."

[pether]

It's funny how the experiment confirmed most of our prediction related to the MP. Good job man, very good idea how to implement this, I'd say the experiment completed with success (experiment, not MP).

I'm sure that won't stop people for asking for MP, but it's good to have confirmation that this would be a bad idea.

Thanks for the summary

[gabberworld]

1 hour ago, pether said:

It's funny how the experiment confirmed most of our prediction related to the MP. Good job man, very good idea how to implement this, I'd say the experiment completed with success (experiment, not MP).

I'm sure that won't stop people for asking for MP, but it's good to have confirmation that this would be a bad idea.

Thanks for the summary

it depends what type multiplayer it would be, factorio self have too  that you build stuff and soo on with others, but area is soo big in this game  that it do-sent matter how others todo that

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[MustardWarrior]

Wait are people seriously contemplating the idea of having an ONI server that anyone can enter like a minecraft server?  Yeah these results are predictable, why not just do like a multiplayer where everyone actually knows everyone?

[degr]

1 hour ago, MustardWarrior said:

why not just do like a multiplayer where everyone actually knows everyone

no challenge

[SamLogan]

Congratz for this technical challenge, it's amazing even the result is not the best. The more important is the experimentation.

[Tytan]

I believe that for a game like the oni to work multplayer it would have to change a little

instead of everyone controlling the same colony, it would be more interesting for each player to control a duplicate, so the more people playing at the same time, the more duplicates, when entering the server each one would choose between 3 dupes, and if the player died he would be taken again to this selection screen, that is, he died loses the dupe and his job progress

[gabberworld]

4 hours ago, Tytan said:

it would be more interesting for each player to control a duplicate

that how it should be, this was only the remote play. it not was true multiplayer

[Tytan]

1 hour ago, gabberworld said:

that how it should be, this was only the remote play. it not was true multiplayer

i know

[Zarquan]

I think ONI together is a great idea.  If you have people you can actually coordinate with, I think it could be a lot of fun if you could play at the same time.  Unfortunately, this would require more than remote play, as each player would need their own camera and cursor.  Basically, each player would be a client viewing the world.

Plus, I could use this locally on my computer to keep an eye on multiple projects at once.  Or keep an eye on projects on different asteroids in the DLC.

[Omdev]

Thanks for the experience, it's very interesting!

I personally need trade.

I want to be able to transfer (or sell / trade) resources to another colony (another game). I would buy a DLC like this!