Sapientis Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Some Hamlet mechanics and seasons would be inappropriate for multiplayer (like the Calendar, Herald, BFB which would help griefers and new players wreck havoc across the map), but I would love to have an automatic Hard Shell Tacos farm with Tall Grass and Snaptooth Flytraps, also Weevole Mantle is an interesting item (although mostly because of stacking armour). I'd love if Hound Waves could be replaced with Vampire Bats (in options e.g.), because even one Red Hound can burn entire base to a crisp if a new player joins and isn't aware of the danger. For the Bosses I'd only like to see Pugalisk, he's the best design in my opinion and the best drop (by which I mean the Snake Bone Soup ) and a Magic Flower, Iron Hulk would just help griefers I'm afraid. P.S. If we don't get any of these just give us a Steamed Ham Sandwich please Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhovious Aran Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 While I wouldn't say no to a straight up Hamlet multiplayer port because it really brought some great new ideas to the franchise, I think we would be fine by porting maybe just some of the strengths over to DST. Which seems more feaseable to me due to the finite nature of Klei's resources. The Housing and Trading aspect is just wonderful and a lot of fun and I think large multiplayer worlds with thriving player-made cities where each player has their own house could be absolutely marvelous and ground breaking for the future of DST. One thing I always struggle a bit with in games, and DST is no exception to that, even if you play with friends, is this inherit feeling of loneliness. Hamlet with all these NPCs and thriving cities does a wonderful job to combat that feeling in my opinion, which would be another great benefit for DST. The ruins and tiny cave pockets were also really fun in Hamlet, and I personally would prefer the addition of smaller cave systems as opposed to one huge one. The sense of exploration, discouvery and archeology in Hamlet is exquisit. As bosses the Iron Hulk is a real standout to me, but I would say the Celestial Champion kinda has similar vibes. The Pugalisk is also amongst my all time favourite bosses and I think could be relatively easily ported to DST. Maybe you could add him as a cave boss with a Caveworm reskin. The caves in DST still feel very lackluster and incomplete and you only have the AG, FW and Toadstool there. Another midgame boss would really benefit the caves. Maybe the loot could be one "massive" glowberry that can be planted as a permanent light source. Or even a sort of glowberry bush that can be harvested from time to time. Alongside the typical spine bones. (I personally am always short on boneshards in my worlds and would love another source of them. And even though fishing works, it's really not my cup of tea and I rather end up dying and resurrecting myself a couple times over to farm bone shards than get loads of fish.) I don't think originality should be pursued for the sake of originality. With slight changes a lot of great concepts from Hamlet could be ported over while still feeling unique enough imo. And when we look at the "unique" content from DST. Namely the RoT updates. Other than the Lunar Island and recent Grott + Archives, the game still feels virtually the same even after years of updates which I feel sad about. I truly believe some more extensive additions and updates à la porting Hamlet's strengths is exactly what could ensure the longevity of this marvelous game that DST is. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArubaroBeefalo Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rhovious Aran said: The Pugalisk is also amongst my all time favourite bosses and I think could be relatively easily ported to DST. Maybe you could add him as a cave boss with a Caveworm reskin Mama worm would be awesome and terrifing. I love this and can be put in a non visited cave biome or like an errant boss that you need to look after. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllFunNGamez Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 I should of clarified I did not mean a cut and paste from the game here I am even referring to a simple grab the good stuff and bring it over. I think overall it would receive good feedback if they took some nice parts from hamlet and brought them here. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-met Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 of course everyone would lol Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Honestly, I'd hate it, the economy is more obnoxious that my real life job. I've grown to like pubs constantly regenerating, means there's almost always a fresh world to build in. But something I just play a few hours after work, the Hamlet economy is just too slow. That said, I could see other people realizing pig town is a trap, after my first few games I realized beepeople and flytraps were more fun to live around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchiRedfield Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Only as a dlc for DST; and in a similar vein, I'd love to have a Shipwrecked together, too. I wouldn't want it to be added to the DST world as it is, but both as standalone dlcs basically. One can dream! Until then, some mods will have to make do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzarello Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Rhovious Aran said: The Housing and Trading aspect is just wonderful and a lot of fun and I think large multiplayer worlds with thriving player-made cities where each player has their own house could be absolutely marvelous and ground breaking for the future of DST. The Pugalisk is also amongst my all time favourite bosses and I think could be relatively easily ported to DST. Maybe you could add him as a cave boss with a Caveworm reskin. The caves in DST still feel very lackluster and incomplete and you only have the AG, FW and Toadstool there. Another midgame boss would really benefit the caves. Maybe the loot could be one "massive" glowberry that can be planted as a permanent light source. Or even a sort of glowberry bush that can be harvested from time to time. Alongside the typical spine bones. (I personally am always short on boneshards in my worlds and would love another source of them. And even though fishing works, it's really not my cup of tea and I rather end up dying and resurrecting myself a couple times over to farm bone shards than get loads of fish.) I don't think originality should be pursued for the sake of originality. With slight changes a lot of great concepts from Hamlet could be ported over while still feeling unique enough imo. And when we look at the "unique" content from DST. Namely the RoT updates. Other than the Lunar Island and recent Grott + Archives, the game still feels virtually the same even after years of updates which I feel sad about. I truly believe some more extensive additions and updates à la porting Hamlet's strengths is exactly what could ensure the longevity of this marvelous game that DST is. Yes,Yes.Yes Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelonNinja Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 At first glance I would absolutely ADORE the pig civilizations and customizable player houses, but both of those (especially the latter) sound like they'd be a huge problem to properly implement in a multiplayer environment while keeping it balanced. As far as mobs go, I'd love Snaptooths (Snapteeth?), partly because I'm a Wormwood main and the more plant mobs there are for him to be around, the better I sleep at night. Pogs are cute too. If we're going to pick between the singleplayer DLCs, though, I'd honestly wish they'd start taking a few pages out of Shipwrecked's book before they start with any major Hamlet stuff. The ocean in Shipwrecked is so pretty and stunning and full of life, and the ocean in DST is... not that. At the end of the day I'd rather them focus on creating content exclusive for DST that better suits its unique multiplayer setting, instead of trying to shoehorn in singleplayer DLC stuff when they wouldn't naturally fit. If Klei thinks that something from Hamlet or Shipwrecked suits DST and can work it in seamlessly, I'm 100% all for that, but I believe a majority of the DLC content just isn't a match for DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrramon_GOLD Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, oCrapaCreeper said: Saying it sucks is a bit much. Lots of people including myself still find DS superior to DST in a lot of ways especially if you do not care much for multiplayer. A singleplayer Don't Starve world with RoG+SW+HAM all combined in the same slot with merged crafting is a completely different experience from DST, and arguably more meaningful content that isn't just tailored for multiplayer. More importantly, thanks to world merging, different mechanics from different DLC's can all interact with each other which kind of becomes the end game. Singleplayer also has endless materials thanks to the teleportato affecting individual DLC worlds and resetting the cave/ruins layers. Your absolutly correct. Saying what game is better is complete opinion. Im not saying anyone who plays singleplayer is a bad person in anyway. Its just I don't see a use for the original DS when DST has more. Very controversial Spoilder right here \/\/\/\/\/ Spoiler DST has the original no dlc content and ROG already implemented into. So with DST you get the base game, and ROG. But not only that, you get toadstool, beequeen, antlion, fuel weaver, malbatross, crabking, Shadow peices, Klaus, and the new celestial champion coming. There's new farming, many new characters, The lunar island, lunar grotto, and ancient archives. Oh lets not forget everything added in the new reign updates during 2017 and 2018. And all of the new return of them items added in 2019 and 2020, All of this without mentioning multiplayer, the forge, the gorge, hollowed nights, winters feast, all of the lunar new year events, and all of the cosmetics and skins to flex on your friends. Listen, im really not trying to throw singleplayer DS away. I absolutly love that game and it means so much to me and many people. If it wasnt for DS i wouldnt even be saying all of this. But what im trying to say is with the amount of content that DST has now. I beleive with the amount of content dst has right now it would be more content than DS having ROG+SW+HAM. All klei would need to do to make DST the perfect game would to add hamlet, shipwrecked, and 64 bits into DST and balance it out. Though I still think you should still play the game you find fun, wether it be DS or DST. I prefer DST but you can play DS aswell. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty_Mentos Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I don't think I want Hamlet in DST, I think I want some different project with that type of town dynamic but different. Hamlet's not finished and is messy, but could be fun in some ways. I tried before on the Tropical Experience and it was a 'somewhat' of a Hamlet experience for me to know that it doesn't really work well with the current feel and field of mechanics of Together. For real, we're better off getting another DLC project from Klei like how they're doing RoT series instead of reusing copy pasta the messy Hamlet shard settings. I'll still have my stance that we need Through The Ages as a priority over Hamlet or any other stuff after Return of Them. We still got a dead and empty ocean that needs content updates, overhaul of the world's biomes and weather to feel like a fresher experience and RoT to be finished. ---------- Overall, I think we should find the modders that may want to implement Hamlet properly if ya'll want it's experience, and Island Adventures (shipwrecked mod) to get a new modding team to resume the work on it perhaps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhyom Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I would love it, Hamlet have nice mechanics and different gameplay. I never gave it a chance as it looks kinda boring to play alone, multiplayer for sure would make it a hundred percent more enjoyable(even though i find most biomes and cities ugly and barren). But let's be realistic, Klei is not going to do that, it's not planned for anytime soon nor is it an easy thing to do, not that i know much about porting, but as they say: it would take a year without any updates and that's really risky, i mean, a completely new multiplayer adventure can be a huge success, but at the same time, a year without new content can be really harmful to the playerbase. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/129243-if-hamlet-came-to-dst-would-you-enjoy-it/page/2/#findComment-1452514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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