Phazon1980 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 So went to test branch recently to try out the new rocket engines, but whenever I build a large solid oxidizer tank I get the message "duplicants cannot reach this storage" I've built ladders etc right next to it etc... so they should be able to reach? There are also no input ports of any kind on this tank, making it totally un-usable. The large liquid fuel tank seems to have the same problem, but that does have a liquid input pipe so isn't as much of a problem. Is anyone anywhere if this is a known bug, or of any work-arounds etc plz? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Phazon1980 said: Is anyone anywhere if this is a known bug, or of any work-arounds etc plz? Probably it IS a bug but you can load the large solid oxidizer tank either with an auto-sweeper arm or building a smaller module below it and put a ladder inside the background scaffold. Dupes fill the tank in the middle bottom tile which is 3 tiles horizontally far from any outside ladders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazon1980 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, sakura_sk said: Probably it IS a bug but you can load the large solid oxidizer tank either with an auto-sweeper arm or building a smaller module below it and put a ladder inside the background scaffold. Dupes fill the tank in the middle bottom tile which is 3 tiles horizontally far from any outside ladders... I'll give this a try later, thanks so much! <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I have opened this bug report here for the problem yesterday. The auto-sweeper works, but it does not always fully fill the tank. As a result, I got a maximum reach of 17 tiles (instead of 18) from a 3 fuel 1 oxidizer rocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Gurgel said: I got a maximum reach of 17 tiles (instead of 18) Nooo! My whole post needs fixing... T_T Edit: Dupes filling tanks fully, does not seem to be the case for small oxidizer tanks. Some times they do some times they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, sakura_sk said: Nooo! My whole post needs fixing... T_T Edit: Dupes filling tanks fully, does not seem to be the case for small oxidizer tanks. Some times they do some times they don't Sorry about that I currently have them fill a large tank in 1kg increments. Lets see what happens. Edit: You may be in luck. From the patch-notes about 1h ago: Fixed issue sometimes causing rockets to miscalculate range by 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Gurgel said: Sorry about that Never mind... The whole topic needs rewriting... Quote Oxidizer tank size and efficiency rebalance. Oxidizer tank capacities made generally smaller while oxidizer efficiency is higher. Fertilizer: 100% efficiency, Oxylite 200% efficiency, Liquid Oxygen 400% efficiency. Well... What is another 5 hours in sandbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Oxidizer tank size and efficiency rebalance. Oxidizer tank capacities made generally smaller while oxidizer efficiency is higher. Fertilizer: 100% efficiency, Oxylite 200% efficiency, Liquid Oxygen 400% efficiency. Also, how do I get Liquid Oxygen in there? The oxidizer tanks have no liquid inputs and no selection for LOX. Are we supposed to put LOX into a fuel tank? I do see that the large solid oxidizer tank now holds only 900kg, so those changes made it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura_sk Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Gurgel said: I do see that the large solid oxidizer tank now holds only 900kg I didn't see that... Yup! New sandbox save file it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.gravitas Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I still have this bug. My dupes can't reach the large tank to load it. The small tank works fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Dr.gravitas said: I still have this bug. My dupes can't reach the large tank to load it. The small tank works fine Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageLeague Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I'm starting to think that maybe the downside of the large tank is that you have to build an autosweeper to automate the process. Otherwise it occupies the same module count as the small one with way larger storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 2:03 PM, Gurgel said: Oxidizer tank size and efficiency rebalance. Oxidizer tank capacities made generally smaller while oxidizer efficiency is higher. Fertilizer: 100% efficiency, Oxylite 200% efficiency, Liquid Oxygen 400% efficiency. Also, how do I get Liquid Oxygen in there? The oxidizer tanks have no liquid inputs and no selection for LOX. Are we supposed to put LOX into a fuel tank? I do see that the large solid oxidizer tank now holds only 900kg, so those changes made it in. Its called solid oxidizer tank isnt it? Liquid oxy is not solid is it? So... wrong tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieDupe Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'm fairly sure it is not a bug, but an overlooked issue (not necessarily unintended, but causes problems that evidently shouldn't be happening). The duplicants can't reach it yet you can't build the ladders close enough to the tank for the duplicants to reach it without building some directly above or below the tank and are required to have a smaller module above/below it to allow you to build a ladder there, after which you have to deconstruct the ladder segment if you want to replace the small module next to the oxidizer tank with a large one. Really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, SharraShimada said: Its called solid oxidizer tank isnt it? Liquid oxy is not solid is it? So... wrong tank? Well, there is an "efficiency" for LOX, but no tank to put it into... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Gurgel said: Well, there is an "efficiency" for LOX, but no tank to put it into... Thats what i meant. The liquid oxidizer tank is missing yet. I think because there is no need for it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve8 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 The liquid oxidizer tank was added in today's update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronivan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 7:32 PM, Steve8 said: The liquid oxidizer tank was added in today's update Liquid Oxidizer Tank was added? I cannot find it anywhere to research or build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageLeague Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 It's in experimental, which means it will probably be added to the base game soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronivan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Oh I see, you meant in the code. I found it right now, and there are actually two of them, the small and the large tanks. I try to patch them to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ronivan said: Oh I see, you meant in the code. I found it right now, and there are actually two of them, the small and the large tanks. I try to patch them to try out. Um, no? They're in the testing branch for all to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronivan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Oh sorry for that again. I often get too much carried away in my assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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