Liquid lock = sopping wet?

[GoHereDoThis]

I'm constructing a Petroleum-Crude Oil liquid lock and noticed that my dupes get a sopping wet debuff when going through.  I thought doing such a lock (vertical lock) would mean they wouldn't.  Am I doing something wrong?  Or is there a better lock to use?  Thanks!

[Neotuck]

2 hours ago, GoHereDoThis said:

I'm constructing a Petroleum-Crude Oil liquid lock and noticed that my dupes get a sopping wet debuff when going through.  I thought doing such a lock (vertical lock) would mean they wouldn't.  Am I doing something wrong?  Or is there a better lock to use?  Thanks!

dupes need to "jump" though the liquid lock to avoid the debuff and prevent exhaling which would break the lock, to do this the lock needs to be 4 tiles high so you'll need to add water and p-water to your petroleum and crude oil

here's an example I use that also has a vacuum in the center to prevent heat transfer

here's the easiest way I know to build 4 tile high locks

[TheMule]

I think you can do that with 3 layers.

[bigsuirlife]

2 hours ago, Neotuck said:

dupes need to "jump" though the liquid lock to avoid the debuff and prevent exhaling which would break the lock, to do this the lock needs to be 4 tiles high so you'll need to add water and p-water to your petroleum and crude oil

here's an example I use that also has a vacuum in the center to prevent heat transfer

here's the easiest way I know to build 4 tile high locks

i need this info too ! :) ty 

[GoHereDoThis]

Thanks!  That did the trick!

Aside from a dupe exhaling in the lock, are there other ways that the lock gets destroyed?

[spkthed]

Okay, Neotuck, literally was trying to figure out proper liquid locks without a debuff yesterday! Thanks! 
 

21 minutes ago, GoHereDoThis said:

Thanks!  That did the trick!

Aside from a dupe exhaling in the lock, are there other ways that the lock gets destroyed?

The obvious, make sure the liquids are within the temp range. Crude oil, petroleum, and naphtha offer a -50 to 400 degree range. Water's fine, until you discover that uncapped volcano

Water falling too - make sure water can't fall next to, or trickle into the lock.

[Neotuck]

5 hours ago, TheMule said:

I think you can do that with 3 layers.

you need a 2 tile height for the height of the dupe, and a deep enough gap to prevent the dupe from "stepping down" into the lock as it runs by, which is a minimum of 2 tiles deep.  So you'll need a minimum of 4 layers

[TheMule]

 

1 minute ago, Neotuck said:

which is a minimum of 2 tiles deep

Dups can step 2 tiles down.

[Neotuck]

Just now, TheMule said:

Dups can step 2 tiles down.

only if they path find to the bottom of the lock yes, which will only happen if you force them

I've built these in survival plenty of times and never seen them fail

[Smife]

9 hours ago, Neotuck said:

dupes need to "jump" though the liquid lock to avoid the debuff and prevent exhaling

 

I'm on 600+ cycles and use only 2 liquid locks because others are just ugly and take too much space. Never had one break yet, be it inside the base or somewhere else. Could it be dumb luck? Also I'm not sure if visco gel can prevent exhaling.

[Neotuck]

8 minutes ago, Smife said:

I'm on 600+ cycles and use only 2 liquid locks because others are just ugly and take too much space. Never had one break yet, be it inside the base or somewhere else. Could it be dumb luck? Also I'm not sure if visco gel can prevent exhaling.

The exhaling break happens when a dupe on one side runs out of breath and runs to the nearest oxygen to catch it's breath

A dupe can pull oxygen from one tile away so it will stop INSIDE a liquid lock to catch it's breath and exhale into it causing it to break

yes, visco gel does not prevent this

[catsRjerks]

1 hour ago, Neotuck said:

The exhaling break happens when a dupe on one side runs out of breath and runs to the nearest oxygen to catch it's breath

A dupe can pull oxygen from one tile away so it will stop INSIDE a liquid lock to catch it's breath and exhale into it causing it to break

yes, visco gel does not prevent this

Dupes breathing in an liquid lock no longer breaks it. I'm pretty sure there was a update about it and haven't seen a broken lock since then. Also confirmed it just now. Passing through is not allowed and Nisbet has been breathing in the liquid lock for a full cycle without breaking it.

[Neotuck]

Just now, catsRjerks said:

Dupes breathing in an liquid lock no longer breaks it. I'm pretty sure there was a update about it and haven't seen a broken lock since then. Also confirmed it just now. Passing through is not allowed and Nisbet has been breathing in the liquid lock for a full cycle without breaking it.

Good to know, I wasn't aware of an update that fixed the issue

Jumping helps with the soggy feet debuf so it's still useful

[Smife]

16 minutes ago, catsRjerks said:

Dupes breathing in an liquid lock no longer breaks it. I'm pretty sure there was a update about it and haven't seen a broken lock since then. Also confirmed it just now. Passing through is not allowed and Nisbet has been breathing in the liquid lock for a full cycle without breaking it.

That explains it 

[gabberworld]

46 minutes ago, catsRjerks said:

Dupes breathing in an liquid lock no longer breaks it. I'm pretty sure there was a update about it and haven't seen a broken lock since then. Also confirmed it just now. Passing through is not allowed and Nisbet has been breathing in the liquid lock for a full cycle without breaking it.

is that a dupe prisoner? as it seems there nowhere to escape

just drop there hot magma and take away his torture

[catsRjerks]

9 minutes ago, gabberworld said:

is that a dupe prisoner? as it seems there nowhere to escape

just drop there hot magma and take away his torture

molten tungsten on the way

[TheMule]

10 hours ago, TheMule said:

I think you can do that with 3 layers.

I meant this:

 

[Yunru]

2 minutes ago, TheMule said:

I meant this:

 

Right, but why when two suffices?

[TheMule]

2 minutes ago, Yunru said:

Right, but why when two suffices?

To avoid the debuff.

[Yunru]

Just now, TheMule said:

To avoid the debuff.

Two suffices.

[TheMule]

3 minutes ago, Yunru said:

Two suffices.

Screenshot pls

[Neotuck]

8 minutes ago, TheMule said:

I meant this:

 

at 1:45 you can see the "soggy feet" when the youtuber moves the mouse over the dupe

[TheMule]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

at 1:45 you can see the "soggy feet" when the youtuber moves the mouse over the dupe

Of course. Acquired at 1:00, not at 1:42.

[Yunru]

13 minutes ago, TheMule said:

Screenshot pls

Not at computer.

Edit: Watched video, thought you were on about something different.

[Neotuck]

1 minute ago, TheMule said:

Of course. Acquired at 1:00, not at 1:42.

well then it appears you are correct, a 3 layer lock will work in most scenarios, however if a dupe runs out of breath and runs to the lock, what's to stop it from standing in the lock to catch it's breath and getting "soggy feet"?

still a good idea when using atmo suits when breathing isn't an issue