arubaro Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 why moleworm burrows can store insane ammount of items but pirate stash delete items to prevent lag?? i dont know about coding but doesnt seem logical to have such bad design to prevent lag (like there will be 48590 pirate stash in the map) when in the caves you can have many burrows storing several stacks of items 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakepeng99 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, arubaro said: why moleworm burrows can store insane ammount of items but pirate stash delete items to prevent lag?? i dont know about coding but doesnt seem logical to have such bad design to prevent lag (like there will be 48590 pirate stash in the map) when in the caves you can have many burrows storing several stacks of items IMO it should only delete junk items like twigs, cutlasses, ect. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) On 11/16/2023 at 5:01 PM, Mike23Ua said: NewHome is confirmed as Non-Canon Well, there's a question. Where did people get this from? I've seen people say it a bunch since the game was announced, but never a source. It seems more like something the community came up with due to not liking the game previews. Edited November 18, 2023 by maradyne Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, maradyne said: Well, there's a question. Where did people get this from? I've seen people say it a bunch since the game was announced, but never a source. It seems more like something the community came up with due to not liking the game previews. New characters, creatures, events and locations did not participate in the main lore of the DST. Although DST also suffers from this... Basically, this is believed due to the fact that New Home is not being developed by Klei. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hungry French said: New characters, creatures, events and locations did not participate in the main lore of the DST. Although DST also suffers from this.. Mostly where the problem arises with people saying that it's 'confirmed'. There's nothing any more conflicting in it than, say, not seeing the Moonbase in DS, or Shipwrecked not being an explorable area in DST. They're all 'canon', they're just separated by being relevant in different games. 16 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Basically, this is believed due to the fact that New Home is not being developed by Klei. Far off from being "confirmed", but yea, that seems to be the gist of it. ...a little weird given that it's all ultimately under the same parent company anyway. Not sure why people divide the two. (Well, 4 in this case. Corporate shenanigans are fun.) Edited November 18, 2023 by maradyne Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, maradyne said: Mostly where the problem arises with people saying that it's 'confirmed'. There's nothing any more conflicting in it than, say, not seeing the Moonbase in DS, or Shipwrecked not being an explorable area in DST. They're all 'canon', they're just separated by being relevant in different games. Some people associate the content in the game as unique and which cannot be anywhere else, although there is no proof of this. 4 minutes ago, maradyne said: Far off from being "confirmed", but yea, that seems to be the gist of it. ...a little weird given that it's all ultimately under the same parent company anyway. Not sure why people divide the two. (Well, 4 in this case. Corporate shenanigans are fun.) Many people mistakenly think that DST is a sequel... And this is a spin-off... And New Home hasn't even come out yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, maradyne said: Well, there's a question. Where did people get this from? I've seen people say it a bunch since the game was announced, but never a source. It seems more like something the community came up with due to not liking the game previews. Pretty sure Klei themselves confirmed NewHome as being Non-Canon in the very same controversial announcement post for the game? 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtonnnn Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Many people mistakenly think that DST is a sequel... 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dextops Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, Paxtonnnn said: seems klei mistakenly thinks dst is a sequel 2 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, Paxtonnnn said: The sequel continues the plot of the last work and keeps the main characters on the 1st plan. In the spin-off, the role of the main characters is given to minor and episodic characters. Do we still have the main characters Wilson and Maxwell in DST ? No, which means it's not a sequel. 34 minutes ago, Dextops said: seems klei mistakenly thinks dst is a sequel If you think about it, but often sequels of different games are not really sequels, but spin-offs that are falsely called sequels. The world is not ready to find out what spin-off is yet. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradyne Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Pretty sure Klei themselves confirmed NewHome as being Non-Canon in the very same controversial announcement post for the game? No, just the players there as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, maradyne said: No, just the players there as well. Oh. I'm waiting for Don't Starve 2 to become canon Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtonnnn Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hungry French said: The sequel continues the plot of the last work and keeps the main characters on the 1st plan. In the spin-off, the role of the main characters is given to minor and episodic characters. Do we still have the main characters Wilson and Maxwell in DST ? No, which means it's not a sequel. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Paxtonnnn said: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowercase skye Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, maradyne said: Where did people get this from? I've seen people say it a bunch since the game was announced, but never a source. It seems more like something the community came up with due to not liking the game previews. It is 100% that. In many many cases also with a heavy dash of the more unspoken (and really gross) reason that people hate anything DST-related to come out of China by default, regardless of its quality. Newhome is an installment in the Don't Starve series, it's canon by default and you're just free to ignore its lore in x or y regard like any other game. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenship2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hungry French said: The sequel continues the plot of the last work and keeps the main characters on the 1st plan. In the spin-off, the role of the main characters is given to minor and episodic characters. Do we still have the main characters Wilson and Maxwell in DST ? No, which means it's not a sequel. ??????????? ds has wilson go free maxwell from throne dst has charlie controlling the world around the survivors while the moon lands on the constant (very vague but only due to being incomplete compared to ds) wilson and maxwell are still very much a main characters, both being protaginists in nearly every animated short, and if you don't want animated shorts to count then wilson/maxwell don't count as main characters in ds either. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, lenship2 said: ??????????? ds has wilson go free maxwell from throne dst has charlie controlling the world around the survivors while the moon lands on the constant (very vague but only due to being incomplete compared to ds) wilson and maxwell are still very much a main characters, both being protaginists in nearly every animated short, and if you don't want animated shorts to count then wilson/maxwell don't count as main characters in ds either. Wilson and Maxwell are literally the only characters who participate in all DLC's and adventure mode. In DST, they became supporting characters. The main characters now... Charlie... And Wagstaff? ... all the survivors have a secondary role in the plot. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenship2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hungry French said: The main characters now... Charlie... And Wagstaff? ... the lack of confused emote here sucks anyways no they aren't main characters, more of antagonists if anything, which while technically does mean main characters, they aren't the main characters, not the protagonists how does having different antagonists make it not a sequel? it must be miserable living life thinking a majority of media sequels are just 'spin-offs' and refusing to enjoy said media because of rose-tinted glasses 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFlower Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Wilson and Maxwell are literally the only characters who participate in all DLC's and adventure mode. In DST, they became supporting characters. The main characters now... Charlie... And Wagstaff? ... all the survivors have a secondary role in the plot. And so what ??? You're allergic to changes ??? You're not making any sense. They became supporting characters because they both know they need to survive. Charlie, ruler of the nightmare throne because she made a smart move by following Wilson through the Adventure mode, and Wagstaff is continuing his studies with the constant, he's been always studying. Just because he's not playable makes you sick ?? Sorry if there is some character development, I understand it's harsh for me too oh myy gaaah theee chaaanges.... the unbearable chaanges !! ;-; 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, lenship2 said: the lack of confused emote here sucks anyways no they aren't main characters, more of antagonists if anything, which while technically does mean main characters, they aren't the main characters, not the protagonists how does having different antagonists make it not a sequel? it must be miserable living life thinking a majority of media sequels are just 'spin-offs' and refusing to enjoy said media because of rose-tinted glasses Then why isn't it a spin-off? A spin-off may happen in the future, but it won't be a sequel. If we consider DST not from the point of view of the plot, but from the point of view of what the game is and its gameplay. Then this is a standalone multiplayer expansion fo DS. Why gameplay is not a sequel ? Because it's a multiplayer game. 8 minutes ago, JustAFlower said: They became supporting characters because they both know they need to survive. This is what distinguishes the sequel from the spin-off. 9 minutes ago, JustAFlower said: Sorry if there is some character development, I understand it's harsh for me too oh myy gaaah theee chaaanges.... the unbearable chaanges !! ;-; Charlie was an episodic character. Now she looks like the main character of the story, which develops and the whole plot of the DST revolves around her. In recent updates, Wagstaff has also begun to influence the world. 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFlower Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Then why isn't it a spin-off? A spin-off may happen in the future, but it won't be a sequel. If we consider DST not from the point of view of the plot, but from the point of view of what the game is and its gameplay. Then this is a standalone multiplayer expansion fo DS. Why gameplay is not a sequel ? Because it's a multiplayer game. So, because that a game got character development, new content ideas, logic stories, and more... is not a sequel simply because it got multiplayer and looks SOMEWHAT similar to the first game, is not a sequel ? Are you EVEN listening to yourself ??? 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, JustAFlower said: So, because that a game got character development, new content ideas, logic stories, and more... is not a sequel simply because it got multiplayer and looks SOMEWHAT similar to the first game, is not a sequel ? Are you EVEN listening to yourself ??? Why isn't it a spin-off? 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) Can someone walk me through a step by step process of exactly what all I need to do to activate Lunar & Shadow rifts in my world the intended way? I have them on in day one worlds because- Well to be quite frank about it, that’s just too much new gameplay content to have locked behind so many obscure dragged along tasks. But I want to go through the process atleast once (so I can unlock the dumb character Affinity skill trees..) , I’ve already killed Pearled Crab King and obtained the thing from under the Sea… But the rest of everything I need to do is Obscure as **** so if SOMEONE would post a progression tree for both Lunar & Shadow rift unlocking that would be very helpful to me.. thanks! Edited November 18, 2023 by Mike23Ua Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_zwb Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Can someone walk me through a step by step process of exactly what all I need to do to activate Lunar & Shadow rifts in my world the intended way? I have them on in day one worlds because- Well to be quite frank about it, that’s just too much new gameplay content to have locked behind so many obscure dragged along tasks. But I want to go through the process atleast once (so I can unlock the dumb character Affinity skill trees..) , I’ve already killed Pearled Crab King and obtained the thing from under the Sea… But the rest of everything I need to do is Obscure as **** so if SOMEONE would post a progression tree for both Lunar & Shadow rift unlocking that would be very helpful to me.. thanks! You can just read the wiki, it's pretty detailed https://dontstarve.wiki.gg/wiki/Rifts#Lunar_Rifts You can also watch videos on YouTube, I'm sure there are tutorials covering that 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: Can someone walk me through a step by step process of exactly what all I need to do to activate Lunar & Shadow rifts in my world the intended way? I have them on in day one worlds because- Well to be quite frank about it, that’s just too much new gameplay content to have locked behind so many obscure dragged along tasks. But I want to go through the process atleast once (so I can unlock the dumb character Affinity skill trees..) , I’ve already killed Pearled Crab King and obtained the thing from under the Sea… But the rest of everything I need to do is Obscure as **** so if SOMEONE would post a progression tree for both Lunar & Shadow rift unlocking that would be very helpful to me.. thanks! Lunar rifts: Spoiler Shadow rifts: Spoiler Edited November 19, 2023 by Arcwell Forgot pick/axe (ty Valase!) 7 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/171/#findComment-1680448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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