BalkanCockroach Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hungry French said: All DST bosses except Lord of the Fruit Flies are raid bosses for 2-6 people. Malbatross has left the chat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Uhh friend.. I fully completed Adventures mode of the original Dont Starve, and NO BOSS (not even Deerclops..) ever shows up even in the final chapter, the last thing you do is quest through a map of endless Darkness to eventually follow the sounds of music in the background and wander up on Maxwell who you then will place the divining Rod into the socket next to him and choose to swap places with him as the thrones captive prisoner. I meant that there is no boss in adventure mode, because Klei already had almost no bosses. 3 in the whole game. And Klei had no experience to create cool bosses. Deerclops without RoG didn't even know how to freeze. 35 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: Not a single boss is in this mode.. it’s more of a quest to gather as much as you can, as fast as you can.. and move onto the next realm before dying. I remember Deerclops came to me in the world with heavy rains. Maybe there you can find Spider Queen and Three Guardians. But unfortunately there are no unique bosses... And unique hostile creatures... 39 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: This mode was ALSO what scored Solo DS the “Rogue-Lite” Gaming Genre- Because this Mode took place across 5 randomly generated worlds, where failure in world 5 meant starting over again on world 1. It's a pity that there are no awards in the game except for Wes and Maxwell for completing the adventure mode. Rewards that complement the bagels with new characters, locations, monsters, creatures and items are an important part of replayability. 42 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: DST however… takes a very different approach. By focusing almost exclusively on Bosses, which the largest majority of are completely optional. Honestly. All bosses are optional. But if you remove all the bosses from the game. That... It will be boring... Is not it so? 41 minutes ago, arubaro said: adventure mode can be summarised like "burn everything on sight". Is fun but i dont get your point in dst you can set clock works and mctusk on insane, put nigh and winter only plus beating bosses with that handicaps... way challenging than going throw worlds with walking cane, pig skin and marble while burning everything when you are cold or the world is in darkness... But you won't have unique generations, worlds with different conditions and a little bit of new content like Maxwell's traps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 You can toggle in world settings to take 40% More, Default, or 40% less damage from all damage sources- while it’s not proper world scaling for Solo players: At least it IS something.. Theres also Reworks, Skill Trees- AND 1500 HP Passive regenerating Day one Beefalo mounts to help you combat DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, _zwb said: The entire Adventure Mode is optional, I don't see your point here. ruins exist in DS too, that's the optional challenge it offered. The DLCs also gave unique optional challenges Ruins and caves and 4 seasonal bosses are the only DS challenges. Shipwrecked and Hamlet optional challenges are 3-4 bosses and that's it. And going from RoG to Shipwrecked and Hamlet is a boring search for bosses with useless items. And now remember the challenges in DST. Ocean, Atrium, 15 new bosses , Moon Storm, Hermit Quest, Lunar and Shadow rifts. 13 minutes ago, BalkanCockroach said: Malbatross has left the chat. Malbatross has hp for 2 people. 9 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: You can toggle in world settings to take 40% More, Default, or 40% less damage from all damage sources- while it’s not proper world scaling for Solo players: At least it IS something.. Theres also Reworks, Skill Trees- AND 1500 HP Passive regenerating Day one Beefalo mounts to help you combat DST. A good idea... But it makes the rest of the game easier. And reworks and Skill Trees make survival easier. DST is easier not only because of stronger characters. I can download a mod to reduce hp to bosses, but... what hp should exclusive DST creatures have ? Klei did not post information about how many hp Toadstool in DS could have or for Celestial champion... I'm surprised, but all seasonal bosses in DST have received a weakening of either attack speed or attack range or damage... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Hungry French said: Malbatross has hp for 2 people lol what do you wan, quacken's hp for other bosses??? malbatross is pretty weak Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Hungry French said: At this moment, 2500 people are playing DS. There are 38,500 people playing in the DST. DS 2019-2023 updates : 1 Qol Update in 4 years (And perhaps the last one). 90% of the changes appeared in the DST from 2016-2018 yesr. DST updated from 2019-2023 : 15 content updates 19 characters update 6 QoL updates 8 Events And there were also updates in 2016-2018, which are still not in the DS. The next DS update... When? For the 20th anniversary of the game?... And there are other cool DS features that make it harder, better balanced for lard and a small amount of unique content like vanilla beardlords and old bell. And this is not in the DST. What do you mean? What prevents you from recreating the DS code so that it would be the same or similar to the DST? Bro. Think. Klei will finish working on DST sooner or later. Don't Starve Klei's Most Profitable Franchise. What should Klei do after stopping the development of DST ? They also somehow need to get paid for their most profitable franchise. Klei has 2 options : Create new Don't Starve game Or continue developing the original DS. Transferring content is a much easier way to get money than making a brand new game. And I have no idea what this game could be. Brand new or DS + DST game If Klei really wanted money, she would fix the DS engine. And would make compatibility between DS and DST. What is the benefit ? Only DS players will start buying skins and DST characters. Only DST players will start buying Shipwrecked and Hamlet. Klei can make Shipwrecked and Hamlet skins style and for exclusive characters. DS and DLC's sales will start to rise, because the game will literally be revived and players will not buy only DST because "Why buy DS if there is a lot more content in DST?" Klei will not have a limiter for creating content only for RoG world, caves and ocean, because they cannot expand it forever. Shipwrecked and Hamlet is an incredible scope for the implementation of Klei's ideas and, accordingly, the franchise will continue to live. What could be the disadvantages ? .... i... just... don't know how to help you... they finished Don't Starve, that's it. Consider it in maintenance if that's helpful. Sometimes things end and that's just one of those things, it happens. Ultimately the franchise lives on through DST, that's a choice Klei made and i'd image they thought people would be happy? Especially as a big suggestion at the time was multiplayer, they gave people what they asked for ... and ... like so much more. I get your annoyance but, yeah, sometimes things change and that's about as complicated as this situation is :s 9 hours ago, Hungry French said: Different experience ? Why then are there 20 times fewer players playing in DS and now think about how little DS and RoG play ? Why are there practically no streamers playing DS ? Where is the activity of the DS community ? Why do people call DS and RoG a useless purchase. Why you need to buy RoG when you don't need to buy it in DST ? Why should you buy a DS in which there is no content at all and it is in the DST too ? They don't have different experiences. DST is literally 4 DLC's for DS and RoG with with multiplayer ( casual ) mechanics. Have you at least seen at least one person who by some miracle will go to play DS. Kill 4 season bosses and Ancient Guardian and say : "Wow I like DS experience. I like that there are no 50 updates from DST in DS" You probably don't play DS and RoG yourself ? Or very rarely in Shipwrecked and Hamlet... Sorry another thing, when DST came around they gave people who owned DS free copies of DST. So it was an absolutely fair exchange. That ended a long time ago but honestly, they kept it running for such a long time - I can't fault them at all with how they basically gave you EXTRA (as in DST) to your preexisting purchase, I remember at the time being kinda shocked at the generosity as DST defo felt like the beginning of a new project that'd expand in content. It's a bit different now but not hugely, it's giving really entitled vibes if i'm honest. Which i kinda get, but like - I can't think of what you're suggesting as remotely resonable. Meet us half way here at least, given the context of what i've said you must admit that they really didn't have to do that, it was truly a gift to their playerbase and it was really really appreciated 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Playing Wortox and accidentally rushed ruins at roughly day 16 or so? My Main goal is to get enough thulecite fragments for our Wanda to get all her watches. What is the best & safest way to get those fragments without putting myself in significant danger? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, WenericMember said: Playing Wortox and accidentally rushed ruins at roughly day 16 or so? My Main goal is to get enough thulecite fragments for our Wanda to get all her watches. What is the best & safest way to get those fragments without putting myself in significant danger? Safest is arguably not in the ruins, but in the archives. There's a toooon of thulecite walls you can hammer there, and as long as the archives haven't been powered with an iridescent gem, there aren't any threats aside from darkness/insanity. (Archives are located behind the lunar grotto, which is behind the blue mushtree forest, which is connected to the central muddy biome) 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WenericMember Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Arcwell said: Safest is arguably not in the ruins, but in the archives. There's a toooon of thulecite walls you can hammer there, and as long as the archives haven't been powered with an iridescent gem, there aren't any threats aside from darkness/insanity. (Archives are located behind the lunar grotto, which is behind the blue mushtree forest, which is connected to the central muddy biome) Also found the archives, good to know. I'll probably try to get fragments from there then thanks. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Uedo said: .... i... just... don't know how to help you... they finished Don't Starve, that's it. Consider it in maintenance if that's helpful. Sometimes things end and that's just one of those things, it happens. Ultimately the franchise lives on through DST, that's a choice Klei made and i'd image they thought people would be happy? Especially as a big suggestion at the time was multiplayer, they gave people what they asked for ... and ... like so much more. I get your annoyance but, yeah, sometimes things change and that's about as complicated as this situation is :s Sorry another thing, when DST came around they gave people who owned DS free copies of DST. So it was an absolutely fair exchange. That ended a long time ago but honestly, they kept it running for such a long time - I can't fault them at all with how they basically gave you EXTRA (as in DST) to your preexisting purchase, I remember at the time being kinda shocked at the generosity as DST defo felt like the beginning of a new project that'd expand in content. It's a bit different now but not hugely, it's giving really entitled vibes if i'm honest. Which i kinda get, but like - I can't think of what you're suggesting as remotely resonable. Meet us half way here at least, given the context of what i've said you must admit that they really didn't have to do that, it was truly a gift to their playerbase and it was really really appreciated PC only, speak for yourself… I’ve had to pony up 15$ (or less if I’m lucky enough to catch the game on Sale) for EACH friend I’ve wanted to get into DST to play it with me. I believe I’ve actually funded my share of entertainment with DST and Then some.. it may not be Klei’s fault that the people I’ve bought this game for simply just can’t stick to and enjoy it, but what Klei can at least “Consider” is taking all that I’ve money I’ve spent on buying the game for those people, and helping to fund bigger DST (or DS2) projects.. I never asked for DST content updates to be Free, and perhaps if the updates WERENT Free they would be bigger & more content rich, perhaps even instead of releasing in what is basically a Beta phase Work in Progress that can change or remove features over time- Perhaps these updates could have INSTEAD been paid DLC content like Shipwrecked & Hamlet or well rather: Projects that are for the most part fully completed and not released in small bit sized monthly updates. I mean if I’m already paying 15$ per Xbox friend I’m wanting to attempt to play the game with, I think it wouldn’t hurt me to pay 15$ for a few large scale DLCs for DST either right?? I have a Free to Play game on my Xbox called Minion Masters, but it has 15$ Paid DLC campaign expansion packs. This is Hyper Relevant to DST & Potential future content monetization. Why? Because even though I pay 15$ Per Campaign expansion- I can Invite anyone on my friends list to join me in those DLC expansions, regardless of if they’ve bought the DLC or Not. So the TL:DR- If I’m gonna be paying 15$ per person I try to get to play the game with, I’d much rather just pay 15$ for bigger expansions that even IF No one else wants to join me in…. I can still enjoy by myself. Is it wrong of me to think like this??? Edited November 16, 2023 by Mike23Ua 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: PC only, speak for yourself… I’ve had to pony up 15$ (or less if I’m lucky enough to catch the game on Sale) for EACH friend I’ve wanted to get into DST to play it with me. I believe I’ve actually funded my share of entertainment with DST and Then some.. it may not be Klei’s fault that the people I’ve bought this game for simply just can’t stick to and enjoy it, but what Klei can at least “Consider” is taking all that I’ve money I’ve spent on buying the game for those people, and helping to fund bigger DST (or DS2) projects.. I never asked for DST content updates to be Free, and perhaps if the updates WERENT Free they would be bigger & more content rich, perhaps even instead of releasing in what is basically a Beta phase Work in Progress that can change or remove features over time- Perhaps these updates could have INSTEAD been paid DLC content like Shipwrecked & Hamlet or well rather: Projects that are for the most part fully completed and not released in small bit sized monthly updates. I mean if I’m already paying 15$ per Xbox friend I’m wanting to attempt to play the game with, I think it wouldn’t hurt me to pay 15$ for a few large scale DLCs for DST either right?? I have a Free to Play game on my Xbox called Minion Masters, but it has 15$ Paid DLC campaign expansion packs. This is Hyper Relevant to DST & Potential future content monetization. Why? Because even though I pay 15$ Per Campaign expansion- I can Invite anyone on my friends list to join me in those DLC expansions, regardless of if they’ve bought the DLC or Not. So the TL:DR- If I’m gonna be paying 15$ per person I try to get to play the game with, I’d much rather just pay 15$ for bigger expansions that even IF No one else wants to join me in…. I can still enjoy by myself. Is it wrong of me to think like this??? Nah man, you're not wrong - it's just down to preferences. If they released this content as paid DLC, truthfully, I wouldn't be buying it :P Different strokes for different folks. The method you suggest would attract a demographic of player for sure, but likewise, I just don't have the disposable income to do something like that, so i'd certainly play the game but I most likely wouldn't buy the DLC's. Without the extra content my gameplay loop would end pretty quickly and i'd likely play something else. The difference in the scenario is that you would get the content either way, I and probably many others wouldn't, so i'm pleased they keep content cycles unmonetised. 'but what Klei can at least “Consider” is taking all that I’ve money I’ve spent on buying the game for those people, and helping to fund bigger DST (or DS2) projects..' <= Didn't notice this, No Mike absolutely not. You're responsible for your own purchases and if you purchased it over and over again, that's a choice you made. You can't apply this to anything else. If I decided to buy my friends a sandwich each It would be mental for me to expect that the sandwich company use my money to create the ultimate sandwich. The game is a product, you purchased it, the product is as advertised, the legal exchange is over. It's not just you who thinks like this though, I used to work in complaints around credit cards and it's pretty common to hear, but no, you saw a thing, bought a thing, the thing is the thing it says it is, it's not faulty, there's no breach of contract, the money was tendered and received, as was the product, the exchange is literally over. Common phrase you should keep in your mind going forward 'Buyer beware; Mileage may vary', sometimes you may buy something that you end up dissatisfied with... sucks for you but it is what it is. Edited November 16, 2023 by Uedo 4 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, arubaro said: lol what do you wan, quacken's hp for other bosses??? malbatross is pretty weak No. The HP of Malbatros is too high for solo. Quacken is a Klei mistake like Palm Treeguard. Malbatros is very similar to seasonal bosses because of its hp. 2500 hp should be for solo. ( In DS seasonal bosses have 2000-3000 hp ) Or 15,000 for 6 players ( Why there is no balance between bosses in the game. Some have hp for 2 people, others for 4 as an Ancient Guardian. And the rest are for 6 + people. Or do they get so many hp that they are not balanced even for 6 people without Warley ) Where option hp scaling ?( At least optional ) Is Malbatross weak ? Then install mods to increase his hp? I am more concerned that the seasonal DST bosses have weakened the rest of their characteristics. The Dragonfly in DST is incredibly weak. If the Dragonfly DS had 27500 hp, then it is many times more dangerous because of the high damage, fire damage and its attacks cannot be hit without speed modifiers. The only boss that should have more hp than in DS is Ancient Guardian. Man rework so bad. Rework made him one of the weakest bosses of the game. Stunlocks are evil 11 hours ago, Uedo said: .... i... just... don't know how to help you... they finished Don't Starve, that's it. Consider it in maintenance if that's helpful. Sometimes things end and that's just one of those things, it happens. Ultimately the franchise lives on through DST, that's a choice Klei made and i'd image they thought people would be happy? Especially as a big suggestion at the time was multiplayer, they gave people what they asked for ... and ... like so much more. I get your annoyance but, yeah, sometimes things change and that's about as complicated as this situation is :s DST is no longer a multiplayer, but a multiplayer with 4 exclusive dlc's + RoG. But what about people who want solo? 11 hours ago, Uedo said: Sorry another thing, when DST came around they gave people who owned DS free copies of DST. So it was an absolutely fair exchange. That ended a long time ago but honestly, they kept it running for such a long time - I can't fault them at all with how they basically gave you EXTRA (as in DST) to your preexisting purchase, I remember at the time being kinda shocked at the generosity as DST defo felt like the beginning of a new project that'd expand in content. At the time of the release of DST, the game was... A stripped-down version of DS and RoG with bugfixes (and possibly improved graphics. When did hd textures appear in DST ? ) 11 hours ago, Uedo said: It's a bit different now but not hugely, it's giving really entitled vibes if i'm honest. Which i kinda get, but like - I can't think of what you're suggesting as remotely resonable. Meet us half way here at least, given the context of what i've said you must admit that they really didn't have to do that, it was truly a gift to their playerbase and it was really really appreciated The gift is multiplayer. And now the game is being developed and supported only for multiplayer. Yes, you can play solo (Imagine what would happen if you couldn't). But the game was not created for solo and the Klei do not do any actions at all to make the game solo. A real solo game... Died on the day of release like all DLC's Now the best option is to wait for a new game, or DS updates, or wait for global mods for DS or DST, which will either add content for DS from DST or DST will turn into DS. They have finished developing the DS, but the DS looks like a beta version of the DST Edited November 16, 2023 by Hungry French Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arubaro Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hungry French said: No. The HP of Malbatros is too high for solo. Quacken is a Klei mistake like Palm Treeguard. Malbatros is very similar to seasonal bosses because of its hp. 2500 hp should be for solo. ( In DS seasonal bosses have 2000-3000 hp ) i would hate that 3000 was too little and will be absurd with the ammount of powercreep klei is adding with skill trees DS having bosses, even the optional ones, with such low hp was a mistake you just want the game being easier 32 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Is Malbatross weak ? Then install mods to increase his hp? you install mods to make him weaker lmao Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike23Ua said: I believe I’ve actually funded my share of entertainment with DST and Then some.. it may not be Klei’s fault that the people I’ve bought this game for simply just can’t stick to and enjoy it, but what Klei can at least “Consider” is taking all that I’ve money I’ve spent on buying the game for those people, and helping to fund bigger DST (or DS2) projects.. DS 2... I think DS2 will be DS+RoG+ Shipwrecked + Hamlet + A New Reing + Return of Them + From Beyond + unnamed dlc's. And the plot will include DS and an alternative plot will begin, where Maxwell and Wilson did not build a portal to survive together. 2 hours ago, Uedo said: Nah man, you're not wrong - it's just down to preferences. If they released this content as paid DLC, truthfully, I wouldn't be buying it :P Different strokes for different folks. If I liked DST I would have bought DLC's. But pay for DLC's that I can't play in DS... Not the best offer... 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retepeter Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 lmao ds2 is just not happening 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, arubaro said: i would hate that 3000 was too little and will be absurd with the ammount of powercreep klei is adding with skill trees DS having bosses, even the optional ones, with such low hp was a mistake you just want the game being easier you install mods to make him weaker lmao Man ? Optional mechanics exist for whom ? Or do you want everyone to kill the most boring bosses just because you think they're weak? Don't you think that to make the boss difficult, he doesn't need a lot of hp ? Huge variability of attacks ? Very fast movements that are hard to react to ? This is not in the DST. Skill trees destroys the entire balance of the DS as a whole. Survival is too easy, bosses are too soft. Survival in DST is a joke. The most difficult survival was and remained in the DS. 21 minutes ago, arubaro said: DS having bosses, even the optional ones, with such low hp was a mistake Really? That's why Klei repeated this mistake in RoG, Shipwrecked and Hamlet. And even now it hasn 't been fixed ? And now let's remember the DST. How much will Bearger have hp if there are 2 people on the server ? 6000 : 2 = 3000. Wow DS Bearger in DST. How much will Bearger have hp if there are 6 people on the server ? 6000 : 6 = 1000 Spider Queen in DS had 1250 hp. Don't you think that Bearger in DST should have 16,000 hp, so that the DST balance for multiplayer would not be a mistake? 32 minutes ago, arubaro said: you just want the game being easier The game is already easy. But bosses are boring and uninteresting. Bosses in other games may have low hp, but they will be 100 times more difficult than any DST boss. And the bosses' music is boring and annoying. I have to listen to a 30 second Toadstool soundtrack for 30 minutes how do I kill her? I would like to make it the same as DS. Almost all the elements of survival in DS are proven and all the seasonal bosses and the Ancient Guardian. Why DST Dragon Fly doesn't have a constant rage. And even in a rage, she attacks weaker. Why do I not need speed modifiers at all in order to dodge her attacks? They just weakened it and gave x10 hp, so that it wouldn't die too quickly in multiplayer. But they also gave her a stunlock, so that when playing 6 people, she would not die for as long as in DS. DST this is the very game that I can come to to see how boring and bad bosses can be, which is why even the worst bosses in other games seem quite not bad. 42 minutes ago, arubaro said: you install mods to make him weaker lmao Will the spider become easier if he reduces hp by 2 times? No. It will remain the same simple. What happens if spiders increase hp by 2 times ? They will suddenly become boring, because you spend a huge amount of free time killing them, and they can't even hit a character with 1 hit. What's stopping you from downloading mods to make bosses harder? 12 minutes ago, Retepeter said: lmao ds2 is just not happening No one knows. DS 2 is very easy to come up with and create. DST is generally an alternative reality. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antynomity Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hungry French said: Snip I miss the old dfly too, at least antlion is interesting with her two attacks compared to DST dfly lol. You have some good points my guy. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dois raios Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) How woodie transformations work in full moon? I read in the wiki that it will make the duration of the trasnformation doubles (from 4 minutes to 8 minutes), but how exactly this will work? The weremeter will drop by 12.5 per minute WHILE on full moon? (When the full moon ends, the weremeter will start to drop by 25 per minute?) Or as long as you transformed during the full moon, the transformation lasts for 8 minutes independenting if it is still a full moon or not. And about the skill tree, is the perk additive or multiplicative? (4*2+3,7)=11,2 minutes of transformation during a full moon or (4+3,2)*2=14,4 minutes of transformation during a full moon Note: consider that you do what is required to maintain transformed, other wise you will become woodie in like 1 minute independent of full moon or not Edited November 16, 2023 by dois raios Grammar Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcwell Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, dois raios said: How woodie transformations work in full moon? I read in the wiki that it will make the duration of the trasnformation doubles (from 4 minutes to 8 minutes), but how exactly this will work? The weremeter will drop by 12.5 per minute WHILE on full moon? (When the full moon ends, the weremeter will start to drop by 25 per minute?) Or as long as you transformed during the full moon, the transformation lasts for 8 minutes independenting if it is still a full moon or not. And about the skill tree, is the perk additive or multiplicative? (4*2+3,7)=11,2 minutes of transformation during a full moon or (4+3,2)*2=14,4 minutes of transformation during a full moon Note: consider that you do what is required to maintain transformed, other wise you will become woodie in like 1 minute independent of full moon or not Full moon only slows wereness decay while it's active. If you're in a wereform when a full moon ends, your wereness decay from that point onward will double. The skill is multiplicative with full moon (although doesn't work exactly the same, as shown below). Here's a table showing the rate of wereness decay per second, taking into account full moon and/or the "Transformation Timer III" skill. These were obtained using this console command: c_announce(ThePlayer.components.wereness:GetDebugString()) 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggf Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, arubaro said: lol what do you wan, quacken's hp for other bosses??? malbatross is pretty weak He thinks anything that takes more than the 5-20 seconds it takes to kill a "boss" in DSA is a raid boss. The DSA health numbers have always sucked and been way too low, but now our damage numbers are higher than ever so it would be even worse. You can literally get 6x damage, you could almost oneshot DSA bosses at this point. Edited November 16, 2023 by Cheggf 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Hungry French said: DST is no longer a multiplayer, but a multiplayer with 4 exclusive dlc's + RoG. But what about people who want solo? Oh that's an easy one, tough. That was kind of my point matey. 3 hours ago, Hungry French said: If I liked DST I would have bought DLC's. But pay for DLC's that I can't play in DS... Not the best offer... I'm actually really angry that my Sims DLC 'Making magic' doesn't work with DST, this is unacceptable! Do they want people to have sims in don't starve or not?! Clearly we're just going to have to wait for Don't Sims 2 Together Again to be developed! Livid. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungry French Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Uedo said: Oh that's an easy one, tough. That was kind of my point matey. I'm actually really angry that my Sims DLC 'Making magic' doesn't work with DST, this is unacceptable! Do they want people to have sims in don't starve or not?! Clearly we're just going to have to wait for Don't Sims 2 Together Again to be developed! Livid. With the condition that DST copied all the content of DS and RoG. DS and DST DLC's support would give DS and RoG a second life Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hungry French said: With the condition that DST copied all the content of DS and RoG. DS and DST DLC's support would give DS and RoG a second life It sure would. The original PS1 game of Tomb Raider would get a second life if added Willow or Wurt as the butler. Televisions would be better if we could take things from the screen too. Wouldn't it be awesome if potatoes were made of gold too? Any more wishes we should make? (In all kindness though, i'm just trying to point out that somethings just do not happen, even if we really want them.) Edit: Anyways this isn't what this thread is about, I hope you get what you want one day dude! I have an actual question though; Are we still generally expecting Wurt to be one of the new survivors to get a skill tree? Quite excited if so Edited November 16, 2023 by Uedo More context 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike23Ua Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Hungry French said: With the condition that DST copied all the content of DS and RoG. DS and DST DLC's support would give DS and RoG a second life The problem with adding DST content into Dont Starve is not only does it devalue don’t starve together.. but it also doesn’t make any sense from a lore point of view either! Dont Starve Togethers content updates have focused on after the events of Solo Dont Starve- After Wilson has traveled through 5 randomly generated worlds and chooses to trade places with Maxwell as the Nightmare Thrones Captive. DSTs official starting animation shows Charlie wander up on Wilson and frees him from the thrones influence before throwing him BACK into the constant, although this time… instead of being ALONE he is thrown into the same constant that he “Swapped Places” with Maxwell at the conclusion of Dont Starve. TOGETHER, Wilson and Maxwell set aside their pasts of being the Protagonist & Antagonist of Dont Starve to agree to work TOGETHER to construct the Jerry Rigged Portal- Which pulls all the other survivors that were each surviving in their own alternative universe all TOGETHER into the SAME Universe with Him (Wilson) and Maxwell. This is also mentioned in Woodies Compendium lore story where it is explained that once Wickerbottom is thrown into the same Universe with him she helps him to better Understand & Control his Werecurse. If you do not understand what I’m trying to explain to you…. Your unrealistically asking Klei to add the Story & Characters of GTA V into GTA 4.. And anyone who’s actually played GTA V will tell you that can NEVER be possible because the characters of GTA 4 make special and periodic appearances throughout GTA V (Trevor even kills the main playable character from GTA 4s DLC literally in the first few seconds of the game introducing you to him) I understand that your frustrated that single player Don’t Starve isn’t getting updates anymore- But give it up man that game was made in 2013… and it’s story is over and DONE. Klei May eventually decide to go back and add one more DLC to solo Don’t Starve- But that would be Complicated to do because…. they can not add any content into Dont Starve that contradicts the story & lore that Don’t Starve Together has continued from it. So any newer DST content that has happened AFTER the events of Dont Starve- Simply could never be added.. However- And as Wagstaff lore in DST implies.. they can add funky Shipwrecked like Moon Quay Islands & literally explain pulling stuff from Dont Starve over into DST thanks to Funky Lunar/Shadow/Unstable Portal shenanigans. You would in all honesty: Fair out better to ask for an official Single Player Mode to be added to Dont Starve Together (with content scaled to a single player..) rather then to unrealistically demand they add DST content into the 10+ year old single player game. 3 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uedo Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike23Ua said: (Trevor even kills the main playable character from GTA 4s DLC literally in the first few seconds of the game introducing you to him) MIKEEEEEEEE! SPOILERS 3 minutes ago, Mike23Ua said: You would in all honesty: Fair out better to ask for an official Single Player Mode to be added to Dont Starve Together (with content scaled to a single player..) rather then to unrealistically demand they add DST content into the 10+ year old single player game. ^Yes this, that would be something I could completely understand being added 2 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/120919-questions-that-dont-deserve-their-own-thread/page/169/#findComment-1679934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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