Lifegrow Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 If anything, it's actively encouraged.... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1353575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:29 AM, KittenIsAGeek said: I feel like an idiot. This is so simple. I've done things like waiting for the mix of gasses to be right, then build the last block when all I had to do was use a stupid flipping pipe. *sigh* Clearly there was a short in my brain somewhere. Thanks for this... it changes everything. Ditto. Literally just did this. And have a infinity storage with extra hyrogen cell in it to show for it. I am so building this ASAP to drain my salt water ocean..... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1353973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxCD Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 7:14 PM, Zarquan said: The escher waterfall(s) [...] are used for [...] making liquids flow upwards. This... Obvious but dammit, lovin' it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1354019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 @mathmanican Thank you again for this, I cannot BELIEVE how fast it is draining this ocean and how easy it was to set up with your deconstructing pipe trick, less than a cycle ago it was above the ladders that are over the pitcher pump. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Denisetwin said: Thank you again for this Take care to not let other liquids in. I cannot predict what will happen if the other liquids decide to intrude. If they already did and you want to share with us the outcome, please do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisetwin Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, mathmanican said: Take care to not let other liquids in. I cannot predict what will happen if the other liquids decide to intrude. If they already did and you want to share with us the outcome, please do. @mathmanicanThis was actually an awesome benefit. I was planning on watching and just sticking a tile over it to stop it when the polluted water got close, but it drained SO much faster than I was expecting. As soon as a polluted water tile was just above the first insulated tile it simply stopped draining. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 Sweet. My hope is that nothing can displace the trapped liquids. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I didn't take screenshot, but so far I never have any trouble with multiple type of liquid. Only original liquid that can go in. There is always will be a small amount of original liquid in entry lock tile preventing other liquid to enter. If yours behave differently, please share with us. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Well the main reason you would want to keep some other liquid from getting in is that once it gets in you will pretty much need a filter on it forever. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDegow Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Neat, I never had been a fan of escher waterfalls but seeing how simple it is to build I might incorporate them as my main Water and Pwater tanks instead of having large reservoirs. I can't see other uses in typical gameplay though but now I have the option, thank you! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, DonDegow said: I can't see other uses in typical gameplay though but now I have the option, thank you! Escher falls allow high flow for liquids. Bead pumps provide high flow for gasses. Bypass pumps allow high flow for either. Until you actually play games with them for a while, you can't see how they are useful. Once you start using them regularly, they become indispensable. I look forward to seeing how your gameplay changes over the next few months. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1355657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narucitachan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 12:45 PM, mathmanican said: DO NOT PLACE a liquid pump venting polluted water in the top tile. Polluted water tends to off-gas as it comes out of the vent For polluted water, just place the vent one tile further to the side. This means that the system can fail with pw or that just will generate po2 on the top? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1356946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 59 minutes ago, Narucitachan said: the system can fail If you place a vent of PW directly over the water blob that traps the gasses, then things can fail. So DON'T put the vent in these tiles: Just place the vent one right of the top blob of water (or one left if you mirror this design). On a side note, I prefer to build over pressure chambers with liquid on the left, for a very specific reason. The liquid pump range does NOT include the blob of liquid where you see a hydrosensor above. If you build the chamber with liquid on the right, then a pump placed right next to the thing has a sucking range that overlaps the bottom water blob. By building with water flow going right-to-left, the pump cannot empty the bottom water tile directly. This provides an extra failsafe to make sure the over pressure chamber does not every get fully drained, preventing me from having to come in and fix it. The hydrosensor is there as a second failsafe. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1356968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Narucitachan said: This means that the system can fail with pw or that just will generate po2 on the top? I actually build a polluted water bubbler using an escher waterfall to compress water. It was able to bubble polluted water, on average, as fast as you can produce polluted water. It didn't break over the course of about 100 cycles of testing. As far as I know, the polluted water in droplet form (like in a waterfall) doesn't bubble to polluted oxygen. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1356977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Simple usage for beginner (other than unlimited storage) probably to move large amount of liquid sideways. I mean something like this, where my salt water reservoir off screen on right side. Or when we split large pool and want to merge liquid inside into one side. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/119984-a-simple-how-to-guide-for-constructing-esher-waterfalls/page/2/#findComment-1357361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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