Osbalop Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I think Wurt should be able to trade with the merm king using trinkets (and maybe tentacle spots) for a small amount of gold ( half of what pig king gives). Currently The merm king gives trinkets that are completly useless for Wurt (I think?) as she can not trade with pig king and not having an easy source of infinite gold is a HUGE downside, This would give a use to the trinkets and give another thing Wurt can give to the team, a gold source you can place in your base. For most people The merm king is a mid to late game item so no trading with pig king is still a good downside. And most importantly it gives a reason to keep a Wurt around because without the perishable glasses that you cant stockpile before switching (unless you use bundling wraps that are OP anyways) you cant trade with the merm king or feed him. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalkas Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Basically DST is multiplayer so the best tip is asking friend or any random about trade with Pig King. Or just switching character for doing deals, idol isnt so expensive to do. New characters require synergy with others, making gamplay more cooperative. Everyone have own jobs but need anyone else to help to be really OP. And thats the point of DST - coop. But if you are freelancer, you can always using game mechanic - changing characters but with friends is always funnier. ALSO HELLO! She is merm! She hate pigs! And she should can trades with pig's king? Betrayal and Shame. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1276873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maciu67 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Osbalop said: I think Wurt should be able to trade with the merm king using trinkets (and maybe tentacle spots) for a small amount of gold ( half of what pig king gives). Currently The merm king gives trinkets that are completly useless for Wurt (I think?) as she can not trade with pig king and not having an easy source of infinite gold is a HUGE downside, This would give a use to the trinkets and give another thing Wurt can give to the team, a gold source you can place in your base. For most people The merm king is a mid to late game item so no trading with pig king is still a good downside. And most importantly it gives a reason to keep a Wurt around because without the perishable glasses that you cant stockpile before switching (unless you use bundling wraps that are OP anyways) you cant trade with the merm king or feed him. Merm king boots merms ant this is his main function and Wurt is a character highly dedicated to team. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1276874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantdeletethis Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 it is kinda annoying to leave out trinkets useless for wurt especially on event weeks Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1276919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I don't see the point in closing the door to pig king just to have the merm king being an identical, yet much harder to open door That said, I wish seeds were removed from his table, birds already give more than can actually be used Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1276978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: I don't see the point in closing the door to pig king just to have the merm king being an identical, yet much harder to open door That said, I wish seeds were removed from his table, birds already give more than can actually be used Wurt + Wormwood. Paint the entire ground in crops. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1276993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zeklo said: Wurt + Wormwood. Paint the entire ground in crops. you can minus Wurt and get the same result, Catcoon will be happy to vomit seeds for fish. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: you can minus Wurt and get the same result, Catcoon will be happy to vomit seeds for fish. Except that they only give one for one—assuming you don't get something else. You can get four to six with Merm King. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zeklo said: Except that they only give one for one—assuming you don't get something else. You can get four to six with Merm King. But they also accept a wider range of gifts than merm king will, so whether Wormwood is hunting or resource gathering, he'll likely get a greater quantity of seeds with surplus materials than Wurt. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: But they also accept a wider range of gifts than merm king will, so whether Wormwood is hunting or resource gathering, he'll likely get a greater quantity of seeds with surplus materials than Wurt. Wurt literally becomes surrounded by merms, and merms drop fish—guaranteed. She's got a nigh infinite supply, and doesn't even have to work for it. A different merm can do the job for her. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakhnish Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Are seeds really an issue? Don't Bird cage already gives back regular seeds when you give it crops via Wormwood? It's also not like seeds themselves are to hard to come by without a bird cage either. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, lakhnish said: Are seeds really an issue? Don't Bird cage already gives back regular seeds when you give it crops via Wormwood? It's also not like seeds themselves are to hard to come by without a bird cage either. They're not but this does make farms not complete garbage if wurts around.One of the problems with farms is that you needed to set aside some of your harvest to turn into seeds for the next batch. With wurt around, not only can you transform 1 fish into 1-4 (or 4-6? Need confirmation) Durian/Eggplants/Pumpkins/Garlic/Peppers/Onions, you also can keep the whole batch for pure food consumption/Warly spices without worrying about the need for seeds. Shame the seed variety is somewhat meh. Edit: yes I am aware you aren't guaranteed seeds for every trade but Wurts unique abilities allow her to easily amass fish and constantly output them if desired Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenomeSquirrel Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Brago-sama said: They're not but this does make farms not complete garbage if wurts around.One of the problems with farms is that you needed to set aside some of your harvest to turn into seeds for the next batch. With wurt around, not only can you transform 1 fish into 1-4 (or 4-6? Need confirmation) Durian/Eggplants/Pumpkins/Garlic/Peppers/Onions, you also can keep the whole batch for pure food consumption/Warly spices without worrying about the need for seeds. Shame the seed variety is somewhat meh. Edit: yes I am aware you aren't guaranteed seeds for every trade but Wurts unique abilities allow her to easily amass fish and constantly output them if desired Vast majority of seeds are normal seeds, particular seeds are a rare drop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brago-sama Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, GenomeSquirrel said: Vast majority of seeds are normal seeds, particular seeds are a rare drop. Ah rats. That really sucks. I really want to test the drop rates myself but I'm not exactly in a spot where I can spend money for her. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDuelist Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I think the seeds are fine, its just another source of them, and its helpful if you set your farms in the caves like I did. A summer underground merm king keeps popping seeds and gets me covered all summer. The only thing I'd change of merm king is that Wurt should be able to give him the halloween specific trinkets for candy, and the rook-bishop-knight figures for the respective sketches. For gold, its meant to be a problem for her (but its not that bad really, just send someone else, or if solo, switch characters briefly). It makes absolutely no sense that she is able to trade with Pig King given the war there is among the races and the mutual hatred. Pig king does not seem to be a racist like his peasant counterparts, and I guess that is why he trades with Wortox and Webber anyway. But the thing between pigs and merms seems to be serious, and we had signs about this since DS times: The pig heads in a pike near marsh, and the merm heads in pikes near pig villages, and the setpieces that makes you randomly find a bunch of pigs battling Merms. Should it ever happen, having a Wilba and Wurt on the same camp would be getting all the tickets for a disaster. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeklo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, ShadowDuelist said: Should it ever happen, having a Wilba and Wurt on the same camp would be getting all the tickets for a disaster. Can't wait for the hidden perk/con for both of them that causes PvP to be enabled for the two no matter what. /s Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinisterrkid Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It would be fine by me if instead of trinkets the Merm King dropped a single gold nugget, with the same rarity he drops said trinkets. Having the Merm King trade trinkets even for half the price the Pig King does would be a bit much, it's an interesting downside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osbalop Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 hours ago, sinisterrkid said: It would be fine by me if instead of trinkets the Merm King dropped a single gold nugget, with the same rarity he drops said trinkets. Having the Merm King trade trinkets even for half the price the Pig King does would be a bit much, it's an interesting downside. That would be a much better idea actually, not being able to get gold as easilly is a good downside and I think replacing the trinkets that are completly useless is the best option. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/113045-trading-with-merm-king/#findComment-1277327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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