Dan_Daniel2000 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Small Bladder increases the fill rate of a Duplicants bladder by 0.2% per cycle. A normal dupe will get 100%/cycle, a dupe with small bladder 100.2%/cycle. This doesnt seem intentional, as it makes no difference in their behaviour whatsoever. They still go to the toilet once per cycle. I think the trait should increase bladder fill rate by 20%/cycle, as this seems more consequential and would be in line with a typo in the Code, where 20% written as 0.2 would cause this exact behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambaire Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Yeah, I had thought a 'small bladder' trait would mean they'd have a 200% bladder fill rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbie Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I would like to note that dupes that pee more often is generally beneficial unless somehow you're running out of stuff that literally falls from the sky in groups of several tons about once a day, but yes it's very silly the trait doesn't really do anything, especially when it logically should be a case of a thing that's something an experienced player would want and a new player would avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Before your Lavatory/Sink/Sieve loop is established, Small Bladder is a minor problem. After, it's a minor benefit. It should be a 20% change, instead of a 0.2% change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Should be reported as a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I think the wiki states it makes the bladder fill double as fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Daniel2000 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, metallichydra said: I think the wiki states it makes the bladder fill double as fast The wiki is clearly wrong about that, but I wouldnt be against Small Bladder giving double bladder fill speed. It would make it an interesting trait with both negatives(two toilet visits/cycle) and positives(double the toilet water). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 That is something that Klei ignored for a long time and probably overlooked in the QoL patches. I do agree that 20% would probably be the best balance between minor annoyment and serious problem/advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Gurgel said: That is something that Klei ignored for a ling time and probably overlooked in the QoL patches. The thermogenesis is something similar interesting and meaningless: A duplicant at 32°C [takes some time to get there^^] will only burn 0,1 additional kcal each cycle. => It´s even less meaningful than 0,2%/cycle bladder fill speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, metallichydra said: I think the wiki states it makes the bladder fill double as fast I thought this to be the case as well, hence I considered small bladder a beneficial trait. I never looked at what it really did. I guess it's not as 'good' as I had thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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