metallichydra Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 this simple setup gives you totally free heat. i dont know what to use it for, but i guess it could maybe be possible to generate power by using steam turbine. there probably is better ways to do it, but this heat is totally free. note: you do not need a meep Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 And that manual generator just spins by itself? No need for dupe worktime? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzra Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Only the once - no runoff with transformers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 its a one-time payment for infinite heat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siromatik Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 This is the interesting part : Infinity loop ! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Yep, a few people including myself made silly turbines with about 400 of these. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, metallichydra said: its a one-time payment for infinite heat OK, I see. So transformers release heat not only while being powered but also after fully charged and without any power draw? That seems to be an overlook by developers. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Just now, Angpaur said: OK, I see. So transformers release heat not only while being powered but also after fully charged and without any power draw? That seems to be an overlook by developers. no, they draw power from each other transformer 1 produces 1000 w/s, and consumes 1000 w/s, which it gets from tranformer 2 tranformer 2 produces 1000 w/s , and consumes 1000 w/s, which it get from transformer 1 Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angpaur Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 OK, it was not visible well in your screenshot how the transformers are connected. Looks like this exploit might be impossible to fix. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suicide commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Angpaur said: OK, it was not visible well in your screenshot how the transformers are connected. Looks like this exploit might be impossible to fix. Actually it's very easy to fix, just have transformers behave like batteries in regards to their charge and bleed off some of it to 'produce' the heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilalaunekuh Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, suicide commando said: just have transformers behave like batteries in regards to their charge and bleed off some of it to 'produce' the heat. I would love something like this aswell, but for an other reason: Right now transformers are the better batteries than the actual batteries ... [I only build batteries if I want an automation signal^^] Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 It's a known source of heat and yes you can produce power with a steam turbine. However you only get 0.9786 W from each transformer. To get 600 W (like a single coal generator) you need 613 transformers, which will require 122.6 tons of steel to build. Yes it's free energy, but the gain is so minor that it's not realistic to use it to power your base. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1232999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Nightinggale is right on. If you really want to cover half of your map for a trickle of free energy, you earned it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1233004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallichydra Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 28 minutes ago, Nightinggale said: It's a known source of heat and yes you can produce power with a steam turbine. However you only get 0.9786 W from each transformer. To get 600 W (like a single coal generator) you need 613 transformers, which will require 122.6 tons of steel to build. Yes it's free energy, but the gain is so minor that it's not realistic to use it to power your base. just make a small base, and fill the rest of the map with transformers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1233013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abud Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Even "space rats" produce more power than that. Wee wee Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1233020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobucles Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Lilalaunekuh said: Right now transformers are the better batteries than the actual batteries ... Seems doubtful. The effort required to keep the batteries cool is FAR higher than paying the <1W tax per battery. Even if the goal is to create a farm of hot transformers for steam power, the net profit is A watt, and hardly even that. There are far better profits to be had. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/109431-free-heat/#findComment-1233049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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