N00bieMeap Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 help me please, but please not space material (and a bunch of wheezewort?) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobucles Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Find a water source. Put a pitcher pump in it. Set up 3-5 ice machines in the local area. Done. For bonus points, place the ice machines in another biome, on the other side of an insulated wall. That way the machine's heat gets dumped outside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bobucles said: Find a water source. Put a pitcher pump in it. Set up 3-5 ice machines in the local area. Done. For bonus points, place the ice machines in another biome, on the other side of an insulated wall. That way the machine's heat gets dumped outside. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 it kinda depends on what you want to use it for. You making ice for the fan? You just want to cool the water? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, nonoxyl said: it kinda depends on what you want to use it for. You making ice for the fan? You just want to cool the water? to cool ~40 Celsius water Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, N00bieMeap said: to cool ~40 Celsius water Then dump the ice into the water using a dispenser (machine that drops delivered items down) or an automated door under the ice machine that opens for 1 sec every day for example. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tobruk said: Then dump the ice into the water using a dispenser (machine that drops delivered items down) or an automated door under the ice machine that opens for 1 sec every day for example. into a big pool of atleast 64 tiles? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobruk Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, N00bieMeap said: into a big pool of atleast 64 tiles? No. Keep the pool small or you'll be waiting for eternity for it to cool down. Imagine dropping a mere 30kg of ice into a pool that has 100 tonns of water in it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, N00bieMeap said: into a big pool of atleast 64 tiles? Yes. Or split your pool. You don't need all the water cool. Other options are, ice sculptures or tempshift plates made of ice, aquatuner Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Ok, this is not the most efficient setup as I just designed this for a rate test but it will work. Just a pitcher pump in the water you want to cool. Use metal and mesh tiles under the ice machines. Put a pump in the water with a valve set to about 500g (so it doesn't run continuously), which drips water over the ice makers and keep them cool (and keeps the heat in the water). Also put a storage unit for the ice next to it and drip water over it too. Dupes will fill ice makers, move the ice to storage, where it melts back into your water supply. You can bridge off the drip cooling line to pump the water out. You probably want to use more ice makers. With only 2, this setup will cool 12t of water by 10C in about 20 cycles. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, nonoxyl said: Ok, this is not the most efficient setup as I just designed this for a rate test but it will work. Just a pitcher pump in the water you want to cool. Use metal and mesh tiles under the ice machines. Put a pump in the water with a valve set to about 500g (so it doesn't run continuously), which drips water over the ice makers and keep them cool (and keeps the heat in the water). Also put a storage unit for the ice next to it and drip water over it too. Dupes will fill ice makers, move the ice to storage, where it melts back into your water supply. You can bridge off the drip cooling line to pump the water out. You probably want to use more ice makers. With only 2, this setup will cool 12t of water by 10C in about 20 cycles. One problem I see is the constant soggy feet debuff and the ''shake water off feet animation'' that adds extra time needed to fulfil the chore. Or am I wrong? I think a little redesign could fix this but I forbid myself to play the last test branch until release... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yoma_Nosme said: One problem I see is the constant soggy feet debuff and the ''shake water off feet animation'' that adds extra time needed to fulfil the chore. Or am I wrong? I think a little redesign could fix this but I forbid myself to play the last test branch until release... Yep. Not a problem if you have exosuits but without you will definitely have the debuff. A sink or handwashing station is also something to think about since dupes can transfer food poisoning to the ice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, nonoxyl said: A sink or handwashing station is also something to think about since dupes can transfer food poisoning to the ice. Yes! Very true...so maybe better idea would just plainly be aquatuner, and use the hot cooling water for electrolyzer....? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1220977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobucles Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: Yes! Very true...so maybe better idea would just plainly be aquatuner, and use the hot cooling water for electrolyzer....? Sending hot water to the electrolyzer is always a good idea. The gas is much easier to cool down, so you still save on heat. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
natanstarke Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: One problem I see is the constant soggy feet debuff and the ''shake water off feet animation'' that adds extra time needed to fulfil the chore. Or am I wrong? I think a little redesign could fix this but I forbid myself to play the last test branch until release... Just having mesh tiles can be a better choice i guess. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Here's about the best module you can make for deleting (as opposed to moving) heat with them currently. Notes: 1. Uses conveyer rail / matter duplication at the bottom row. You will generate water with this. When this bug gets fixed, it will be pretty bad at cooling (20kDTU/s at current preview branch total for 5 machines). 2. Loader is set to ice. 3. Array of igneous rock tempshift plates is used behind them to act as a thermal battery. The metal between mesh tiles thermally couples the bottom plates to the water via the right wall. 4. Images have been updated to include Math's conveyer rail fixes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, nakomaru said: Here's about the best module you can make for deleting (as opposed to moving) heat with them currently. I love the post and picture. One issue you may have not yet encountered is that if the ice melts on the far right, or far left, sides, then rather than getting duplication may end up with annihilation. The bug seems to do odd things if you aren't careful about the ends. To avoid this, I'd make my rails extend one less unit on each side, so there is a 1 tile gap between where the rails end and the walls start. Another possible improvement might be to swap the rails so they move right on the bottom row inside the tiles (as heat transfer differs based on direction of flow). @Saturnus's model utilized this direction in the water duplicator post. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 @mathmanican Thanks, updated the mock up! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 hmm, what about cooling air? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakomaru Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Just now, N00bieMeap said: hmm, what about cooling air? Put air near this to cool it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
N00bieMeap Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 minute ago, nakomaru said: Put air near this to cool it. ty Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108483-how-to-setup-ice-machines/#findComment-1221217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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