SamLogan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Hello, I made a lot of tests with the new Water Sieves from this patch : Here's a summary : The modifier is only the sand temperature, you have two cases : - Sand < or egal 40°C, so the temperature output will be fix at 40°C regardless the water temperature. So you still delete heat with the Water Sieve. - Sand > 40°C, so the temperature output will egal to the sand temperature. No fix, no temperature deletion. The water temperature affect nothing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 So we need to cool regolith now? Can we crush it with the granulator? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: So we need to cool regolith now? Can we crush it with the granulator? Nope for the granulator. And yes, if you add hot regolith on a water sieve, the water will have the same temperature and can get transform to steam. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivodeus Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I usually use regolith to boil water or to heat anything I need to heat, so I think this is possible, we just need to somehow limit dupe access to hot rego and let them use the cooled down rego as filtration medium. My brain hurts trying to think of a new setup. This launch preview added and remove so many things, the game become almost like something new, compared to the early access game i played. Not complaining though. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassyfo Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 All that regolith just to feed shove voles is an interesting design choice. Edit: Now we need the ability to select the type of filtration material to use. Kinda like the power control station. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggun Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I think this could be just because of the following bug where the sieve is using the mass of all the stored sand instead of the amount consumed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, SamLogan said: The water temperature affect nothing. It's supposed to be a weighted average. With over 60x the sand than water... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightinggale Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, bleeter6 said: So we need to cool regolith now? Can we crush it with the granulator? If we apply the correct formula, then inputting 40 C polluted water and 250 C regolith, then the output water will be 42 C because it consumes 5 kg of water for every kg of regolith and water has 20.9 times the thermal capacity. However you will see different temperatures right now because somebody used the wrong mass in the formula. Most likely the output temperature will be more sane in the next patch. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExileGamer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 This has since been patched. Your results were from the water sieve accounting for characteristics of its internal mass (sand) rather than input mass. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shark Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Xuhybrid said: Why would they use the sand temperature and not the polluted water temperature? Talk about stupid. It always used both. The bug was that it used more sand than it should have. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderCN Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Xuhybrid said: Why would they use the sand temperature and not the polluted water temperature? Talk about stupid. It should use both when things are working properly. You are running one material through the other one, why would it not use both? Just using polluted water would be just as bad as just using the sand. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xuhybrid Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, EnderCN said: It should use both when things are working properly. You are running one material through the other one, why would it not use both? Just using polluted water would be just as bad as just using the sand. Sure that's fine. But unless it was fixed, it's not using the liquid. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/108388-water-sieve-how-does-it-work-now/#findComment-1219625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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