Junksteel Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hello, I found this guy pretty close to my base and couldn't resist taming it as early as possible. It's the first time I deal with one of its kind. I was surprised to see its output is shy but continuous. Cute. I decided to use Saturnus' waterfall liquid compressor model for this but soon I realized gold amalgam pump can't stand the 330C oil it leaks. I guess even steel steel wouldn't do the job. So I started wondering if it's possible to use the same design of compressor combined with some cooling method efficient enough to keep damage away from my pump. My initial idea is to run cool pwater in radiant pipes from a cool slush geyser through the pump but I have no idea how to calculate that temperature exchange between the too hot oil from the leaky fissure and the too cold pwater running across it. Maybe Mr. @mathmanican can help with that. I also thought about a more strong setup with hydrogen around the cell, refined metal walls instead of insulated tiles and boxing up 2 or 3 wheezeworts. I'm affraid from both under cooling damaging my pump in the long term AND over cooling (as I don't want that oil to become solid in a couple hundred cycles). It would be a nightmare to undo all the mess and I'll probably drop the colony instead of fixing it. The good thing of being uncapable to calculate results in ONI is I never know what will happen! All is mistery and magic lol. This time I'd like to skip the suspense with some help because oh boi breaking the wall from the compressor to fix the design later can be the end of my run. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abt9 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 What about just trying? Pwater has high enough heat capacity that it would simply work. Just make sure that cooling pwater is at least twice more than crude oil. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Let it drip into oil biome Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Junksteel said: Maybe Mr. @mathmanican can help with that. Will do. Check tomorrow as I'm travelling now. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Something like this could take care of your needs. The pump is steel. I didn't put any cooling on the turbine as it will heat up VERY slowly. You could easily let the surrounding atmosphere just cool it. A single wheeze would more than work (the turbine won't be running that often). I would put insulated blocks next the left door in your picture, and between the turbine and fissure (otherwise things will heat up faster and you'll loose your power). Note, this won't produce much power. The oil fissure doesn't produce that much heat. However, this should stabilize your oil temp near 125C (the tempshift plates should help with this). On a side note, here is a smaller version of the waterfall mechanic, requiring 3/5ths the metal. This works for all geysers except polluted water types. For polluted water, you have to make sure you have a single tile above the last bit of liquid before the water fall. As such, you have to build at least one more tile left, yielding @Saturnus's design. The mesh tiles have nothing to do with the build, but do make it easier to explain the odd gas mechanics. Note: With this smaller design, you can actually build ladders in the gas squares and access the liquid region. So you can come in from the top right (via a door), and then make changes to the liquid pump region, without having to deconstruct any doors and unleash a massive compressed liquid fiasco on your base. If you move the pump one tile right, making the liquid zone 2 tall by 3 wide, then the ladder can even extend to the base so your dupes can walk around. You can make the liquid region as big as you want, provided you maintain the two different gasses in the upper left corner. The above design can even hold volcanic liquid. With a careful door pump/hydrosensor combo (I'd place it going right under the volcano), you can extract a desired amount magma from super compressed liquid magma. You can use designs like this to 100% capture ALL volcanic exhaust, maintain ALL temp, and extract small quantities as desired at will. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junksteel Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Thanks a lot @mathmanican! Pretty simple and cheap, loved it! I discovered a volcano in this map as well. But that's another story... I never messed with magma for real before. Maybe you can extend a bit in future about what a hydrosensor combo is (???). haha Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamLogan Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Here's my setup : The blueprint : https://blueprints-not-included.com/blueprint/leaky-oil-fissure-easy-oil-cooler/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Junksteel said: Pretty simple and cheap, loved it! You may want to consider at some point to first boil it to petro before cooling. A metal refinery can do this. For now this works. @SamLogan's works too and does not require plastic but does require power. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/105679-help-taming-oil-leaky-fissure/#findComment-1189179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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