Pan_opticon Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Is it just a game element or such situation is scientifically possible with a system having single star? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThyReaper Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 We have huge imbalances in day/night on Earth, with the poles experiencing months-long days or nights. The odd part is that the day/night ratio doesn't change over the course of a year. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizzler Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 It's scientifically possible. Assume the in-game "Cycle" isn't a rotational cycle (Day/Night). Instead, the asteroid has no rotational spin, so half of it is always facing the star, and the other half is always in darkness (like our moon). The dupes live on the side always facing the star. Now it'd be light constantly, so we need something to provide some darkness... Like a planet passing between the asteroid and the star causing an eclipse. This is what dupes refer to as a cycle. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSatx Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 the asteroid the dupes are on revolves around a multiple star system. if all major bodies are in resonance that would set unequal day/night cycles. really its a matter of story but a bit of math (beyond me) would come up with the necessary orbits.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Because the day/night cycle was there from the start and the schedules were not. This game would be pretty blah if the dupes were asleep for 1/3 to 1/2 the day. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucemo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 This game isn't realistic and that's fine. But unequal day/night are possible due to axial tilt, as evidenced through seasons on Earth. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunru Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, nakomaru said: By the way, the moon rotates, has days and nights, and doesn't have a dark side. True, but it doesn't rotate relative to us. So one lunar month for us is a lunar day on the moon... I think? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_opticon Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Chizzler said: It's scientifically possible. Assume the in-game "Cycle" isn't a rotational cycle (Day/Night). Instead, the asteroid has no rotational spin, so half of it is always facing the star, and the other half is always in darkness (like our moon). The dupes live on the side always facing the star. Now it'd be light constantly, so we need something to provide some darkness... Like a planet passing between the asteroid and the star causing an eclipse. This is what dupes refer to as a cycle. That's actually a very good idea, haven't thought of that. But this leaves us with another problem: the ratio of day/night is very short but constant, so we must have a situation where a very big planet orbits very close to the sun and our rock orbits just a bit farther, which is not realistic, as we have a light level of 80000 lux at noon, which is actually less than we have on earth. Unless the star is a red dwarf maybe. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariilyn Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'd like the asteroid to be perpetually dark with the only evidence of day/night cycle being the sunlight on the surface and wild critter behavior. Or Hatches could burrow at different times. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivodeus Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 hours ago, Yunru said: True, but it doesn't rotate relative to us. So one lunar month for us is a lunar day on the moon... I think? You mean they rotate and revolve. Rotation is to itself, so one rotation is one lunar day. I'm not really sure with the rotation since I believe our moon is tidal locked to earth, or it has a vertical rotation rather than horizontal rotation, which mean one side will always be dark. And the Lunar Month is the revolution of the moon in accordance to earth. It takes one lunar month for the moon to fully revolves around the earth and back to its original position, just like one earth day is one rotation and we have ca. 365 rotation during the time it takes earth to fully revolve around the Sun. On 3/25/2019 at 8:06 PM, Chizzler said: It's scientifically possible. Assume the in-game "Cycle" isn't a rotational cycle (Day/Night). Instead, the asteroid has no rotational spin, so half of it is always facing the star, and the other half is always in darkness (like our moon). The dupes live on the side always facing the star. Now it'd be light constantly, so we need something to provide some darkness... Like a planet passing between the asteroid and the star causing an eclipse. This is what dupes refer to as a cycle. Cant you still have rotation and have a tidal lock situation as well, as in rotate according to its horizontal axis, as in the equator. but i think most asteroid dont rotate? i dont know, I assume asteroid doesnt have oblong or round shape and rather out of form? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathmanican Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 hours ago, Mariilyn said: I'd like the asteroid to be perpetually dark Said like a true Willow! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1169828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan_opticon Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Also, I can sorta understand that in earlier builds this day/night ratio was necessary because dupes only sleep at night and long night can make the waiting boring. But now when we have schedule and coffee machine it is no longer the case. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/104178-how-is-it-possible-that-we-have-daynight-cycle-so-unequal/#findComment-1170395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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