Bob Smith- Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Having an issue with my solar panel generating station. Everything is working perfectly expect for the fact that my glass tiles are randomly taking damage and I cannot figure out the source. At first I thought they were overheating (why I was dumping water on them) but then I saw the damaged one take a bit more damage right in front of my eyes. No prompt indicating what was doing it. Is it the regolith sitting on it? The wire running through it? Space exposure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
zergologist Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 maybe meteors? the main reason why things in space break is mainly because of meteors. Do you have a bunker door above those? if it still persists without meteors, maybe try looking at the tiles for a while. It will eventually say "____ damage" Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Smith- Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 That is what I was thinking at first too. It is protected by bunkers, with enough space that it cannot be damaged by the 1 tile shock of a meteor impact. At first I was thinking it was a glitch from impact damage going too far, or a meteor glitching through the bunker, but I was never able to visually confirm it until now. I just saw the damage tick down with no meteor storms active. I am doing an experiment where I have the exhaust of a natural gas generator venting under the glass (to absorb the heat from the glass and then evaporate into space) could it be damage from an pressure imbalance? How much pressure can glass tiles take? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I have only seen pressure damage from liquids, never gas I know glass is very delicate, try rebuilding them with diamonds and see if they still take damage Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I´ve encountered this before. Its some kind of glitch in the engine. If you experience it. save, reload, repair. It should be fine for some while, before you run into it again. The main cause is, the bunker doors wont close in time when not on screen. (a known bug) Then meteors come through, and from that point on, the tile takes damage over time, without reason, until its broken. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Did you build the glass tiles on the mesh tiles, replacing them? I remember having a weird bug where replacing airflow or mesh tiles with solid ones caused them to break from "pressure damage" like if the gas got trapped inside and exploded the tiles. I thought it was fixed long ago but maybe i was wrong. If it is this then removing the tiles and rebuilding them should work. Edit: i tried to reproduce that bug but with no success. So i don`t know if that was the issue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 why do you need to cool the tiles to begin with? Glass is fine with hot regolith on it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, chemie said: why do you need to cool the tiles to begin with? Glass is fine with hot regolith on it. he might have been planing on building sweepers and robo miners there Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Havok9 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 hours ago, SharraShimada said: I´ve encountered this before. Its some kind of glitch in the engine. If you experience it. save, reload, repair. It should be fine for some while, before you run into it again. The main cause is, the bunker doors wont close in time when not on screen. (a known bug) Then meteors come through, and from that point on, the tile takes damage over time, without reason, until its broken. This. You can't trust bunker doors offscreen. You could, a little, but you have to be careful to not ever scroll your screen and make them visible while they are closing... that's a recipe for disaster. Totally unreliable closing times and random damage, everywhere on the top layer. Also you can have all sorts of weird things happen on loading if they are connected to an automation circuit... well, they probably are. Maybe it's just my hamster powered PC lagging behind, maybe not. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 hours ago, 6Havok9 said: This. You can't trust bunker doors offscreen. The actual behaviour is that doors close/open off screen as long as you don`t look there. The doors have an internal timer that turns them their state about 40s after recieving a signal but the animation is not going on since it`s off screen. If you look there before they fully close the animation starts from the beginning making them close later. That said with around 20% detection grid i didn`t have a single meteor damage my glass tiles for over 300 cycles. I`d blame power shortages if it was meteor damage. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Neotuck said: he might have been planing on building sweepers and robo miners there except it is easy to have a 2 tile ceiling for the robominer above the glass to keep the glass clean while not impacting solar (unless you have the thermium) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, chemie said: except it is easy to have a 2 tile ceiling for the robominer above the glass to keep the glass clean while not impacting solar (unless you have the thermium) play style? not every one has the same solution on dealing with overheating problems in a vacuum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1150975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Out of curiosity why are you using glass in the space biome? It's blocks a percentage of light so it hurts solar power and it completely blocks scanners. Why not use airflow or mesh tiles? They do not affect solar or scanners at all. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, JohnFrancis said: Out of curiosity why are you using glass in the space biome? It's blocks a percentage of light so it hurts solar power and it completely blocks scanners. Why not use airflow or mesh tiles? They do not affect solar or scanners at all. I can't speak for OP but if you have to transfer heat away from machines like sweepers and robo-miners you have to use glass because mesh and airflow tiles act like insulators in a vacuum and it doesn't hurt solar panels, they can achieve 100% efficiency even with a fourth of it covered in shadow Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnFrancis said: Why not use airflow or mesh tiles? They do not affect solar or scanners at all. I`d say some people might consider that an exploit. I`m prety sure this will change eventually especially now that it blocks decor and light from lamps. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Neotuck said: doesn't hurt solar panels, they can achieve 100% efficiency even with a fourth of it covered in shadow Can't remember the exact figure but I believe glass absorbs 10% of the Lux value which will decrease solar power generation. To transfer heat away from robominers I place the robominers on airflow tiles with a drop of liquid on them and run radiant pipes through the area. This method has allowed me to keep all my miners free of overheat problems. Quote I`d say some people might consider that an exploit. Oh, if they remove the ability of mesh and airflow to do that it's going to make managing Telescopes much more difficult. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnFrancis said: Can't remember the exact figure but I believe glass absorbs 10% of the Lux value which will decrease solar power generation. To transfer heat away from robominers I place the robominers on airflow tiles with a drop of liquid on them and run radiant pipes through the area. This method has allowed me to keep all my miners free of overheat problems. as I said before there are many play styles that work, be open to new ideas The max LUX a solar panel can absorb is 50K and daylight goes up to 80K so you can afford 10% LUX loss and still have your panels generating 100% efficiency 14 minutes ago, JohnFrancis said: Oh, if they remove the ability of mesh and airflow to do that it's going to make managing Telescopes much more difficult. You plan to sunburn your scientists? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I put my solar panels in a pyramid config so they are going to be partially in shadow anyway, that way they never max out and I generate the most energy from the least amount of open sky. I only have one scientist and I like them extra crispy Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnFrancis said: I only have one scientist and I like them extra crispy have you considered giving your scientist the night shift? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the Mist Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Neotuck said: have you considered giving your scientist the night shift? That should be a good idea even without the threat of sunburn. Get to look out for interesting celestial bodies without that damn sun getting in the way. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Man in the Mist said: That should be a good idea even without the threat of sunburn. Get to look out for interesting celestial bodies without that damn sun getting in the way. Just the thought of looking at a sun though a telescope... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFrancis Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Neotuck said: Yes, that is exactly what my scientist looks like. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Btw: the telescope protects them from sunburn now. (since QoL1 i think) I don`t have much problems managing the telescope without mesh or airflow tiles above. Only issue is the regolith sometimes forming below the telescope on game load. If it is high enough it can cause the telescope to overheat. Also there`s always a safe mode with bunker tiles above the telescope leaving you with 45% effciency. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroturtle Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 20 hours ago, Neotuck said: The max LUX a solar panel can absorb is 50K and daylight goes up to 80K so you can afford 10% LUX loss and still have your panels generating 100% efficiency This assumes the entire panel is exposed to light. With a staggered setup, this becomes more of an issue. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/102495-what-is-damaging-my-glass-tiles/#findComment-1151365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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