what does the swashy hat do?

[beautybug]

I haven't noticed anything besides being able to steal from pigs' farms in daylight without them noticing most of the time. 

[Philsam]

2 hours ago, beautybug said:

Je n'ai rien remarqué d'autre que de pouvoir voler des fermes de porcs en plein jour sans qu'ils s'en aperçoivent la plupart du temps. 

It allows Webber to communicate with pigs

2 minutes ago, Philsam said:

Cela permet à Webber de communiquer avec les porcs

Oops, I was wrong

[CrimXane]

3 hours ago, beautybug said:

I haven't noticed anything besides being able to steal from pigs' farms in daylight without them noticing most of the time. 

 

55 minutes ago, Philsam said:

It allows Webber to communicate with pigs

Oops, I was wrong

it allows you to steal at night, while from afar from the pigs 
the wiki states : " It should also be noted during Dusk and Night that the Guards will not assail the player for wearing this hat unless the player is within melee range "

AKA
Steal berries - rocks - redish and grass from the farms outside the city while keeping away from guard pigs that are in melee range

[Yokoblue]

Its basically a thief disguise. It makes you unrecognizable when you steal stuff from your "true self"

[watermelen671]

On 11/19/2018 at 6:23 AM, Yokoblue said:

Its basically a thief disguise. It makes you unrecognizable when you steal stuff from your "true self"

So...wow, it makes you a thief on two fronts.

First you stole the stuff from the other pigs.

And then you steal the identity of the true masked vigilante.

[cannonball 594]

23 hours ago, watermelen671 said:

So...wow, it makes you a thief on two fronts.

First you stole the stuff from the other pigs.

And then you steal the identity of the true masked vigilante.

Don’t use the word vigilante unless you know what it means

[watermelen671]

11 hours ago, cannonball 594 said:

Don’t use the word vigilante unless you know what it means

Spoiler

 

He is taking money from the rich, like a sort of robin hood. Taking the law into his own hands, thus a vigilante.

At the very least he's a socialist.

Spoiler

Inb4 you get your knickers in a twist...

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Socialism is an economic system where the ways of making a living (factories, offices, etc.) are owned by a society as a whole, meaning the value made belongs to everyone in that society, instead of a group of private owners. 

 

Don't attempt to correct someone unless you know all the facts.

[cannonball 594]

Except for the fact that Robin Hood gave it back to the poor, thus taking the law into his own hands. and because the masked pig doesn’t give the money back or care anything about “taking the law into his own hands” he is a thief not a vigilante 

Don’t correct someone correcting you unless you can correct correctly 

[Rellimarual]

Stealing stuff is not “the law,” which is why even the heroes who have done it, like Robin Hood, were still OUTlaws. If the thief were trying to punish us for stealing, then he’d be a vigilante.

[cannonball 594]

But he isn’t punishing us for stealing. Stealing isn’t even technical a feature it’s a bug. And therefore he isn’t a vigilante 

[Rellimarual]

4 hours ago, cannonball 594 said:

But he isn’t punishing us for stealing. Stealing isn’t even technical a feature it’s a bug. And therefore he isn’t a vigilante 

That’s what I said. He might subscribe to some Marxist notion that property is theft, but even so, he’s not enforcing a law 

[CrimXane]

stealing to give to the poor is good
pigs have a lot of stuff ( infinite amount actually )
and the character is poor so that confirms @watermelen671 point.

10 hours ago, cannonball 594 said:

But he isn’t punishing us for stealing. Stealing isn’t even technical a feature it’s a bug. And therefore he isn’t a vigilante 

stealing is a feature
it literally says " steal " before stealing an item

once again, get your facts right before spreading rumors and lies

[Rellimarual]

1 hour ago, CrimXane said:

stealing to give to the poor is good
pigs have a lot of stuff ( infinite amount actually )
and the character is poor so that confirms @watermelen671 point.

11 hours ago, cannonball 594 said:

Actions can be good and still not be lawful, and they certainly can be possible and not lawful. Stealing is against pig laws, obviously, which is why the guards chase the thief. The thief isn’t taking it upon himself to enforce pig laws, he’s breaking them.

[watermelen671]

4 hours ago, Rellimarual said:

Actions can be good and still not be lawful, and they certainly can be possible and not lawful. Stealing is against pig laws, obviously, which is why the guards chase the thief. The thief isn’t taking it upon himself to enforce pig laws, he’s breaking them.

He's stealing from the thief. 

The Pig Bandit doesn't steal from Wilba, because she doesn't do anything to warrant vigilante justice. (I think...)

4 hours ago, Rellimarual said:

Actions can be good and still not be lawful, and they certainly can be possible and not lawful. Stealing is against pig laws, obviously, which is why the guards chase the thief. The thief isn’t taking it upon himself to enforce pig laws, he’s breaking them.

Taking "the law" into one's own hands doesn't mean enforcing the law already established. It could just be the pig bandit is enforcing their version of the law, which is what makes vigilantes vigilantes.

[Rellimarual]

59 minutes ago, watermelen671 said:

Taking "the law" into one's own hands doesn't mean enforcing the law already established. It could just be the pig bandit is enforcing their version of the law, which is what makes vigilantes vigilantes.

Yeah, no. By that argument, anyone who does anything based on some law that they’ve invented and that exists only in their own minds is a vigilante. 

The masked bandit does attack Wilba. 

[watermelen671]

1 hour ago, Rellimarual said:

Yeah, no. By that argument, anyone who does anything based on some law that they’ve invented and that exists only in their own minds is a vigilante. 

The masked bandit does attack Wilba. 

I wouldn't really know. I'm not a vigilante.

But we've gone and derailed this topic so hard I think we should stop.

[CrimXane]

On 11/23/2018 at 3:35 PM, watermelen671 said:

The Pig Bandit doesn't steal from Wilba, because she doesn't do anything to warrant vigilante justice. (I think...)

 

they don't ? interesting..

all the poor guy wanted from this post is answers
not reality 

[Rellimarual]

The bandit does steal from Wilba

[saiavinn]

On 11/19/2018 at 5:00 AM, CrimXane said:

 

it allows you to steal at night, while from afar from the pigs 
the wiki states : " It should also be noted during Dusk and Night that the Guards will not assail the player for wearing this hat unless the player is within melee range "

AKA
Steal berries - rocks - redish and grass from the farms outside the city while keeping away from guard pigs that are in melee range

That description is rather misleading. The sneaking and the stealing both work in broad daylight, I've tried it. It's easy to contrast against trying to do the same with Webber; guards will charge him from across the screen, whereas you have to be almost next to a guard for him to agro if you're wearing the Swashy Hat, and they'll spot you thieving if they're even remotely on screen without that hat.

The hat also discourages agro from other creatures like the flytraps and spidermonkeys.

I guess it's trying to say that it's even more effective at night? I dunno. I think the wiki might just have a bit of misinformation on it. 

[CrimXane]

use at day : Chaos
use at night when most people are sleeping and only guards with small seeing radius will spot you