Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I was wondering if any one had tried new solar power plants with the new robo-miners to remove the regolith left over from meteor showers Here is my fist attempt done in debug mode The mech doors under the scanners open for 10 seconds after the bunker doors open to allow any regolith to fall though the robo-miners overlap so if they get buried by regolith it's neighbor can dig it out Feel free to comment and share your own designs ---------UPDATE--------- I have added a layer of tempshift plates above the window tiles and lowered the sweepers/loaders This might not seem useful because we are dealing with a vacuum so even with cold tempshift plates they can't transfer heat from the miners, sweepers, and loaders. However when they get covered in Regolith when the bunker doors open the regolith becomes a thermal medium between the temp shift plates and the miners, sweepers, and loaders. This works so well they can be made of Steel instead of Thermium Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 This is my attemp. It working fine for about 300 cycles. Miners submerged at small drop of oil and transfer heat to hydrogen loop. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, Neotuck said: I was wondering if any one had tried new solar power plants with the new robo-miners to remove the regolith left over from meteor showers Here is my fist attempt done in debug mode The mech doors under the scanners open for 10 seconds after the bunker doors open to allow any regolith to fall though the robo-miners overlap so if they get buried by regolith it's neighbor can dig it out Feel free to comment and share your own designs And about your design - it's defently has a big flaw. I think miners, sweepers and may be loaders will overheat over time. Or am I missing something? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, Fischer_L said: And about your design - it's defently has a big flaw. I think miners, sweepers and may be loaders will overheat over time. Or am I missing something? I built them with Thermium, the regolith keeps them from going over 300C In theory anyways I have only been running for 50 cycles and no problems so far Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 O well, that may work. Mine design built with no space material in mind. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 I have added a layer of tempshift plate to help transfer heat from the miners, regolith, and window tiles I'll run it for another 50 cycles to see what happens Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 @Fischer_L check the update to the OP, tell me what you think Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Well, I like it. But if i understand correctly, you need some external cooling if you use steel. Regolith spawns like 280-290C, doesn't it? So how much? Or does it sweep so fast that not to much heat transfer going on? What is the temperature of collected regolith? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fischer_L said: Well, I like it. But if i understand correctly, you need some external cooling if you use steel. Regolith spawns like 280-290C, doesn't it? So how much? Or does it sweep so fast that not to much heat transfer going on? What is the temperature of collected regolith? I have just been using wheezies under my solar panels and battery bank I know this seems like more than the map provides but remember you can get extra wheezie seeds from space missions Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 So, if you can provide enough cooling power then regolith may be used like heat bridge in vacuum... Interesting design concept. Does shift plates absolutly necessary? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fischer_L said: Does shift plates absolutly necessary? yes, it speeds up the heat transfer diamond or gold makes good material for shift plates Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1099963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpongledd Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 solar panels dont generate any heat, no need for cooling Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceClaws Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, hpongledd said: solar panels dont generate any heat, no need for cooling Batteries do, and so does the regolith 15 hours ago, Neotuck said: yes, it speeds up the heat transfer diamond or gold makes good material for shift plates mind showing the automation please? or even better,upload the save file Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 50 minutes ago, hpongledd said: solar panels dont generate any heat, no need for cooling It's not about solar panels, it's about sweepers, collectors, miners - they do generate heat and they do overheat. And it's kinda tricky to cool them in vacuum, because they don't transfer heat with tiles they sit on. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgel Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Much less optimized, but works nicely. Cooling for the miner is by the sewage from bathrooms and showers. I do combine scanners and solar though. Currently I have only one scanner/solar panel per miner, could probably be increased to two. Vertical distance is so that the solar panel does not decrease scanner sensitivity. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, FierceClaws said: mind showing the automation please? This is the only automation used to control the bunkers and mech doors under the scanners, this pics are a step by step of what happens after a meteor shower All the fallen regolith and iron get mined, swept, and loaded onto comvayor rails to be sorted. Iron is stored and regolith is fed to my wild shove vole farm Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Gurgel said: Cooling for the miner is by the sewage from bathrooms and showers I try to avoid liquid cooling as light gets dimmed as it passes though liquids reducing the efficiency of solar panels Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbluep Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I am not playing the game atm so I cannot test. But I though you could install robo miners upside down. I have been planning (when I start playing again) on putting robo miners beneath the doors of scanners, so they won't get entombed. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, silverbluep said: I am not playing the game atm so I cannot test. But I though you could install robo miners upside down. I have been planning (when I start playing again) on putting robo miners beneath the doors of scanners, so they won't get entombed. you can so yes this is possible, feel free to share a pic when you finish Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fischer_L Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, silverbluep said: I am not playing the game atm so I cannot test. But I though you could install robo miners upside down. I have been planning (when I start playing again) on putting robo miners beneath the doors of scanners, so they won't get entombed. But how you would cool them? In vacuum they don't transfer heat with tiles they are sitting on. They don't heat up fast, but surely they do. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fischer_L said: But how you would cool them? In vacuum they don't transfer heat with tiles they are sitting on. They don't heat up fast, but surely they do. this is also true, scanners and doors don't generate heat so they only get as hot as the regolith that comes into contact with them robo-miners on the other hand generate heat and with no out lite for that heat they eventually overheat Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasza22 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Neotuck said: robo-miners on the other hand generate heat and with no out lite for that heat they eventually overheat I found a really weird solution to that. My robominers kept the bottom of my steam rocket clean of regolith but kept overheating. Once i made them from steel the steam from the exhaust was actually cooling them below the overheat point. I`m thinking of dumping extra steam from my steam generation cave to cool other surface stuff. For now i throw away the CO2 that dupes produce with their jetpacks delivering hot regolith to the cave. I`s also cool enough for steel buildings on the surface. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharraShimada Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Another thing you may try is pumping CO² into a "bassin" build with back-plates or temp-shifts. CO² falls to the ground, so you can have it open at the top. That way, you can transfer heat away, and even cool down regolith, if you can get rid of the heat somewhere else. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1100997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, SharraShimada said: Another thing you may try is pumping CO² into a "bassin" build with back-plates or temp-shifts. CO² falls to the ground, so you can have it open at the top. That way, you can transfer heat away, and even cool down regolith, if you can get rid of the heat somewhere else. CO2 only "falls" to the ground when in contact with a lighter gas if it's by itself then it behaves just like any other gas Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1101017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0xFADE Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I used a lot of door crushers before but using the diggers like that looks very nice. As long as one digger isn’t buried it should eventually dig out the ones that are. Very nice. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97089-solar-energy-builds-on-the-surface/#findComment-1101121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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