rafker Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I am not sure about it whether it was in earlier builds (but I think it worked properly before), but dupes seem to ignore delivery tasks now if it takes place under the water, even though I have atmosuit checkpoint on the way there Is it a bug? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 There seems to be a limited distance from the entry point to a body of water where the game will decide a task is no longer reachable. You can usually get around this for Dig tasks by selecting a Dupe and ordering them to move to a position close by, but it is harder to finagle for Build tasks due to the need for resources. When ordered to move, a Dupe will drop whatever it is holding, and as such cannot easily deliver to such a location. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazumiya Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I wish they should have changed that... I mean there is no maximum distance for a Gaz, so why should there be for liquids -__-' Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kazumiya said: I wish they should have changed that... I mean there is no maximum distance for a Gaz, so why should there be for liquids -__-' Ideally they would split up the functions of the current Exosuit. Have a basic one that is little more than an air tank, available earlier than the current version. Have a middle tier with a few varieties of Suit. Heat, Cold, Germ resistance, etc. This middle tier would include a Scuba Suit, allowing Dupes to reliably navigate water. And the final tier would be for the Surface and Rockets, a full blown Space Suit. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafker Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kazumiya said: I wish they should have changed that... I mean there is no maximum distance for a Gaz, so why should there be for liquids -__-' well that much is pretty realistic - dupes wouldn't be able to go underwater w/o suit cause of the pressure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 42 minutes ago, rafker said: well that much is pretty realistic - dupes wouldn't be able to go underwater w/o suit cause of the pressure. Waterpressure is like 0.10bar/10meter water above....so well... I think the real question is why can't they swim? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: I think the real question is why can't they swim? And yet another point to add to the silly game physics of ONI. I pretty much gave up questioning it when I wondered how dupes breath pure oxygen without their lungs burning (that's what would happen if humans did that) 9 hours ago, rafker said: well that much is pretty realistic - dupes wouldn't be able to go underwater w/o suit cause of the pressure. And yet they have no problem dealing with the negitive pressure of a vacuum Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Yoma_Nosme said: I think the real question is why can't they swim? Swimming would require a certain amount of intelligence, my dupes at least, have barely have enough skill to walk, let alone swim! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoma_Nosme Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, Neotuck said: I pretty much gave up questioning it when I wondered how dupes breath pure oxygen without their lungs burning (that's what would happen if humans did that) Haha...but that would certainly not happen...just breathing pure oxygen doesn't incinerate your lungs. But over time it harms you in other ways, so yes it would kill. but valid point imo breathing a mix of gases would be more realistic. Spoiler It just came to my mind but it's too far off topic. Devs should let them breath whatever is there around them and let the dupe ''react'' to it(get sickly, light headed, etc) Would be a cool gameplay idea imo. 3 minutes ago, Craigjw said: Swimming would require a certain amount of intelligence, my dupes at least, have barely have enough skill to walk, let alone swim! True...they sink like a stone. Its like Hook, line, sinker Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I should have clarified that, pure oxygen won't burn but it does cause damage to the lung tissue that is similar to burning and feels the same Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigjw Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, Yoma_Nosme said: True...they sink like a stone. Its like Hook, line, sinker I think that my dupes possibly sink faster than a stone! The stone certainly has more agility... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
babba Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Your profile picture always makes me hungry ! Happy ONI everyone Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Neotuck said: I pretty much gave up questioning it when I wondered how dupes breath pure oxygen without their lungs burning (that's what would happen if humans did that) No it doesn't. Patients in hospitals are given pure oxygen all the time. The apalo space program initially filled the capsule with pure oxygen until a spark ignited it and burned the crew alive. Scuba divers not going very deep use pure oxygen since it lasts longer, but becomes toxic at higher pressures so deep divers have to dilute it with nitrogen and later helium. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyRighty Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 15 hours ago, rafker said: Is it a bug? you mean like this bug report? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, psusi said: No it doesn't. Patients in hospitals are given pure oxygen all the time. Ok I don't know were you got your information but first off patients in hospitals on O2 are never given "pure" O2, Most of the time the O2 from tanks are allowed to dilute in the air before patients inhale them. In extreme cases for patients under critical condition they are fed a mix of 95% O2 and 5% CO2, but this is meant for short term until the patients stabilize. 27 minutes ago, psusi said: The apalo space program initially filled the capsule with pure oxygen until a spark ignited it and burned the crew alive. It is true that during the Apollo program astronauts breathed pure O2 but this was before NASA learned about the toxic effect of long term O2 effects on the body. Today astronauts only breath pure O2 for a few hours before going out on a spacewalk to purge their body of nitrogen which is deadly at negative pressures. The number of spacewalks are limited in order to prevent oxygen toxicity 28 minutes ago, psusi said: Scuba divers not going very deep use pure oxygen since it lasts longer, but becomes toxic at higher pressures so deep divers have to dilute it with nitrogen and later helium. I am a scuba diver so I already know that is a myth shallow divers ALWAYS use normal compressed air While it's true deep divers will use a mix of helium and O2, they NEVER use nitrogen due to the high risk of getting nitrogen narcosis which is both very painful and potentially deadly to divers Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafker Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 8 hours ago, LeftyRighty said: you mean like this bug report? Yeah, pretty much Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1091953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psusi Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 14 hours ago, Neotuck said: Ok I don't know were you got your information but first off patients in hospitals on O2 are never given "pure" O2, Most of the time the O2 from tanks are allowed to dilute in the air before patients inhale them. In extreme cases for patients under critical condition they are fed a mix of 95% O2 and 5% CO2, but this is meant for short term until the patients stabilize. I make medical equipment for a living. The pipes all over the hospital are carrying 100% pure O2. The only diluting it gets is in the space between the canula or facemask and when the patient actually inhales it. I did look up oxygen toxicity though and though I could have sworn it only was a problem at higher pressures, apparently it is a problem even at normal pressure. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1092017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Fair enough I also heard the only deiluting happens at the mask of the patient. I'll admit most of my info came from Google searches, except for scuba diving which I had to learn when I got my scuba certification. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/96246-pathing-inside-luquid-pool/#findComment-1092025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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