Pipe source priority

[psusi]

2 hours ago, Saturnus said:

Exactly. Useful to pack the output of a sieve into an aquatuner for example

Ahh... to get better efficiency I run polluted water through the aquatuner in a closed loop to cool another pool of polluted water that acts as a heat exchanger/buffer.  Regulate the flow into the tuner just right and it maintains the temperature of the buffer just right so that clean water and oxygen can go through it and cool to the right temperature.  So I needed a combiner that works at any flow rate.

[Saturnus]

The simple valve bridge packet stacker also useful if you have a single gas pump but need to have full packets on the output.

[Argelle]

Left setup is ok, "you shall not pass" (shut off valve) until there is an overflow in the loop. Output pipe south is at max capacity. Nice.

Right setup is puzzling me. Packets alternate by value of 500 g, on to a valve or onto a bridge. Valve at 9750 let it go, bridge also. I do not visualize the 10000 g final combine packet here...

[Djoums]

17 minutes ago, Argelle said:

Right setup is puzzling me. Packets alternate by value of 500 g, on to a valve or onto a bridge. Valve at 9750 let it go, bridge also. I do not visualize the 10000 g final combine packet here...

That setup does not make 10Kg packets from 500g packets, it merges every 2 packets together. You'll get 1Kg packets from those 500g packets. I think it works because one path is 2 pipes long and the other is 3 pipes long, making the packets meet 2 by 2 in the end.

[Argelle]

That makes sense @Djoums

It's a system to output a desired value (twice the value of the second valve, value =< 5000g)

But why the second (9750 g ?) valve then? (values 500/9750 from @psusi )

[Djoums]

Imagine removing it from the design, the liquid can now take this route backwards and reenter the bridge. It's here to direct the flow, not to throttle it.

[Argelle]

Hence the two bridges idea... I get it more clearely now.

To resume, only one valve, then a parallele setup will work, each branch with a bridge, but one branch one tile longer than the other.

[Slvrsrfr]

must attempt to understand...at least two brain seizures....

thanks folks! these will help..

[Djoums]

On 8/24/2018 at 4:42 PM, Saturnus said:

An infinite in-line stacker with element sensor and liquid shut off also works. It outputs only full packets regardless of input flow.

Thanks it works very well, but do you know if full output flow is possible with this kind of setup ? This one will let 1 full packet go every 2 ticks at most, so 5Kg/s on average.

Edit : well I guess I can make 2 of them in parallel and merge their output, should have thought about that earlier ^^

[Saturnus]

10 minutes ago, Djoums said:

Thanks it works very well, but do you know if full output flow is possible with this kind of setup ? This one will let 1 full packet go every 2 ticks at most, so 5Kg/s on average.

Edit : well I guess I can make 2 of them in parallel and merge their output, should have thought about that earlier ^^

If you have a flow of half or more of the pipe capacity then a normal packet stacker works instead. You can also just make the pipe between the blockage detector and the shut off valve longer.

[Djoums]

52 minutes ago, Saturnus said:

If you have a flow of half or more of the capacity then a normal packet stacker works instead. You can also just make the pipe between the blockage detector and the shut off valve longer.

I have very heterogenous packets coming in my water sieves, sometimes it's just the flushed toilets, sometimes a full batch from geyser cooling. So the in-line stacker version is really what I need, but the limitation on the output flow was backing up my pipes at times.

I'll try your suggestion first but I'm not sure it will solve the issue, the detector seems to deactivate the signal as soon as the liquid leaves its pipe, even when another packet is incoming.

Edit : scratch that it works fine, I made a mistake in my setup and there's no need for adjustments.

[RonEmpire]

On ‎8‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 3:51 PM, Djoums said:

An example of what Saturnus said in action, a self refilling refinery.

Because of the bridge in the bottom right, the fresh coolant that comes from the bottom will only be able to go through if there's no coolant being recycled from the refinery for another round. A thermo sensor is used to decide whether the coolant can be recycled or is to hot and must be expelled to the left.

this doesn't work actually.    because the recycle part can get clogged up and it doesn't pump

I have a setup exactly as above and it breaks down when the output is looping into the input with another source as well where its completely deadlocked.

you have to setup another shut off value to make sure it doesn't feed new coolant until there is at least room for it to pump out.

[Djoums]

27 minutes ago, RonEmpire said:

this doesn't work actually.    because the recycle part can get clogged up and it doesn't pump

I have a setup exactly as above and it breaks down when the output is looping into the input with another source as well where its completely deadlocked.

you have to setup another shut off value to make sure it doesn't feed new coolant until there is at least room for it to pump out.

It can happen if you make the pipe loop really short, you need a small buffer like in my screenshot. I've used this setup quite a bit to make tons of steel, works well.

[beowulf2010]

On 9/1/2018 at 8:53 AM, Djoums said:

It can happen if you make the pipe loop really short, you need a small buffer like in my screenshot. I've used this setup quite a bit to make tons of steel, works well.

Yeah, works just fine with enough piping. Had a large single loop kicking out the crude oil to a petroleum refinery at 260 degrees feeding both iron and steel refineries pulling 80 oil straight from the oil biome. Only real difference mine had from Saturnus' picture was that my refeed loop was around a 3 level 15 wide refinery complex and the temp sensor was at the "end" of the loop.