WanderingKid Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 It is becoming more important to be able to control sub selection of items in certain menus. Power Control Stations for example have no controls of if they're using my 2 tons of Iron, or my 50kg of Tungsten. Even worse is watching your Pacu egg farm (with plenty of eggs in local inventory) suddenly devour every last shine Nymph Egg from the other side of the base. I'd probably nuke the game if we suddenly ate a (insert OMG Been Trying Forever Beast here)... Please, we need finer controls otherwise we have to constantly baby sit our dupes. Edit: On a somewhat related sidenote: Do eggs really need to be counted as part of the critter count in the prison stable? My grill for my pacu eggs, in particular the ones in the fridge, is counting all those eggs up from the stable where I've got my hatches wandering around on a different floor. Makes for things to be frustrating all around when eggs are part of the count. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozencarbon Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, WanderingKid said: Even worse is watching your Pacu egg farm (with plenty of eggs in local inventory) suddenly devour every last shine Nymph Egg from the other side of the base. I don't make omelets because of this Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Please check forums before posting. Both have been suggested 2 or 3 times now. @WanderingKid Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 @TheExceed Heh, I missed one that was obvious, my bad. After three pages of posts though looking I stop looking for something that 'might' fit.. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, WanderingKid said: @TheExceed Heh, I missed one that was obvious, my bad. After three pages of posts though looking I stop looking for something that 'might' fit.. There is this handy thing. It allows you to search through this forum. The Search bar is magical. Haha. Just make sure "All Content" is set to "This forum" and search omellete or power control and you will see every post with those in comments on a thread. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheExceed said: There is this handy thing. It allows you to search through this forum. The Search bar is magical. Haha. Just make sure "All Content" is set to "This forum" and search omellete or power control and you will see every post with those in comments on a thread. To prove a point, and then I recommend we head to PM if you really feel the need to discuss it further: Power Control: Besides us: out-of-contro, power, etc. Lots of bad hits: "Power Control" (with quotes): 5 hits, just us and nothing doing. omellete: Us omelet: Nada omelette: Over a week ago for most recent post referenced. omelettes: Discussions about pacu raising, and some stuff from over a week or two ago, prior to the current release.. ... yeah, so I missed one. Get over it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Yes, some are older but they all for the most part include a comment from what you had stated or similar ideas to not use lower % eggs for omelettes. I wasn't trying to be rude in my lost comment. Just a bit of banter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Frozencarbon said: I don't make omelets because of this You can easy prevent that, with door permissions for your dupes (cook/storage).. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Oozinator said: You can easy prevent that, with door permissions for your dupes (cook/storage).. Not entirely. Your storage people would need to be explicitly storage only and no supply choices, otherwise they still occasionally move an egg from where they are instead of where the nearest egg to the cooking station is. The logic loops you would need to make to ensure only certain types of egg made it into the grill for the omelet becomes ridiculous, at least in my opinion. Partially because a newly dropped egg from one of your ranches could be sent to the grill before it even makes it *to* storage to keep it out. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oozinator Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, WanderingKid said: Not entirely. Your storage people would need to be explicitly storage only and no supply choices, otherwise they still occasionally move an egg from where they are instead of where the nearest egg to the cooking station is. The logic loops you would need to make to ensure only certain types of egg made it into the grill for the omelet becomes ridiculous, at least in my opinion. Partially because a newly dropped egg from one of your ranches could be sent to the grill before it even makes it *to* storage to keep it out. Ok, forget the "easy" thing, but theoretically it's possible. ^^ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuch Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 15 hours ago, TheExceed said: Please check forums before posting. Both have been suggested 2 or 3 times now. @WanderingKid (With all due respect, is there an actual rule against it (I'm sorry but there is, I have not seen it) or has a member of the dev team give an answer about the subject thus giving a final word on it ?.. Bcause otherwise, while multiple threads about a same subject may seem anoying, they are a good thing, as it should be a good indicator for the devs that this is a real problem/expectation for the player base. Which is kind one of the point of having a suggestion and feedback subforums in the first place.) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheExceed Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Smuch said: (With all due respect, is there an actual rule against it (I'm sorry but there is, I have not seen it) or has a member of the dev team give an answer about the subject thus giving a final word on it ?.. Bcause otherwise, while multiple threads about a same subject may seem anoying, they are a good thing, as it should be a good indicator for the devs that this is a real problem/expectation for the player base. Which is kind one of the point of having a suggestion and feedback subforums in the first place.) It's not about being annoying or not. I stated this in a few threads. Devs don't always get to read through every thread. Therefore, making a bunch of threads for the same thing can get some ideas lost. It's better to have a popular thread than multiple non-popular threads. However with this said, in the Guidelines it does say to use the search function before posting. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpe12 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 18 hours ago, Frozencarbon said: I don't make omelets because of this I have a refrigerator set for eggs that I don't want and from time to time I check the count on it, and manually add the bills. Definitely not practical. :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewreckedangle Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 wow. backseat moderating. nice. /: Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkinglurker Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 15 hours ago, WanderingKid said: Not entirely. Your storage people would need to be explicitly storage only and no supply choices, otherwise they still occasionally move an egg from where they are instead of where the nearest egg to the cooking station is. The logic loops you would need to make to ensure only certain types of egg made it into the grill for the omelet becomes ridiculous, at least in my opinion. Partially because a newly dropped egg from one of your ranches could be sent to the grill before it even makes it *to* storage to keep it out. Not necessary: make the following tunnel Outside <> Door 1 <> storage > Door 2 <> Grill > exit door or dead-end wall Door 1 is restricted to the delivery guy and the chef Door 2 is restricted only to the chef. Thus the chef becomes the only person who will stock the grill. And with that, it becomes highly unlikely that eggs other than the type you want to grill (aka: those in the storage) will get cooked. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 6 hours ago, lurkinglurker said: Not necessary: make the following tunnel Outside <> Door 1 <> storage > Door 2 <> Grill > exit door or dead-end wall When the game becomes more complex than the logistics circuits that are built as an end game toy, it seems a bit much. Additionally, there's a third operator: Grill -> D2 -> Storage -> D1 -> Food court... which delivers the omelets. That last one tends to enforce corner builds. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1033913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfons100 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 What you could do is have an Autosweeper in the said Egg room instantly sweep the egg when it lands, throw it into a Fridge/Smart storage container, when it holds as many eggs as you like so you won't extinct your critter, it will disable the Sweeper so rest of the eggs can be picked up for consumption. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1034021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I have to agree with The Exceed though, if we have 10 threads all about the same thing, we are wasting the devs time by splitting their attention over 10 threads, where all the information, suggestions etc can be seen in a single thread. It also means devs can see how much a certain topic is being discussed versus "Oh this egg thread only have 5 replies" and then coming across another egg thread and having to either remember if this is trhe same thread or not that they just read. Yes different opinions are great, but its better if they are all on the same page it doesn't stop people being able to put in their opinion and it means the devs can see that 80% of the people posting want this and the other 20% don't etc. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1034198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichikai Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Grill acts like storage, hence.. have a tab where you can select which things you allow inside the grill; just like storage. Seems simple enough. Another quick solution would be to only allow stuff to be pulled into the grill from storages with lower or equal sub priority. So as long as you have a high priority 1 kg max storage for each specific egg, you should be fine? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/90614-omeletes-power-control-and-pacu-oh-my-qol-suggestion/#findComment-1034464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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