How can I regulate heat? any tips pls guys

[Ransom]

Hi all loving the game it’s such a great title it’s the only klei title I’ve played someone recommended it an well wow awesome!!! 

Im having quite some difficulty dealing with heat mostly to grow crops,  I’m played around with wheezesorts mixed along with the planters or next to electrolisers 

i wanted to try running a pipe sound all the planters in my farms with hydrogen and a cooler but then again I have no idea how to regulate it stop/start etc I’m quite baffled an I’m sure I’m missing something really simple

does anyone have any suggestions they could share, many thanks guys 

[fishtree]

For starters, you just need to set out some area in the starting biome for plants.

The only other biome you can grow in in the foreseeable future is the ice biome.

Wheezeworts generally won't turn a hot place into a cool place unless you set up some unintuitive cooling tower or something. 

Once you have a ton of power a great way to manage heat is to put an aquatuner in an insulated pool of water, cool petroleum to -30 and pump it wherever you need cooling in radiant pipes. The  air cooler should work too, I don't think it's as quick though.

[Neotuck]

Keep an eye out for CO2 geysers (not vents) and slush geysers.  These generate cold liquids you can use to cool your base

[onebit]

The way I do it is to insulate the starter base and not put anything that generates heat inside it. Only a grill and massage tables. After the electrolyzer is built 20C water is piped around the base.

[Winternewt]

There are a few general rules of heat management you need to know:

• Heat is fairly easy to acquire and very hard to get rid of.
• The starting location initial temperature is ideal for dupes, you need to isolate it from heat sources, by building isolated-tile walls or at least two-blocks thick common-tile walls (use igneous rock, its abundant and provides fairly good thermal insulation for early game) between your living/farming zone and hot machinery, and especially geysers and oil zone.
• The largest heat amounts in your live zone are created and destroyed in water <-> polluted water conversion cycle. Polluted water has triple the heat capacity of water, which effectively means destruction or production of heat during conversion of water to polluted water and back.

Wheezeworts are only good to fine-tune temp in a room once it's settled. I'm guessing you need a way to manage a heat-problem with some fast and dirty low tech solutions, there are two and both are tied to ice biomes:

You may build a farm adjacent to ice biome, wait it to reach the desired temp, then build a wall to prevent further cooling.The other way is this: build a few containers in ice biome and mark them to only contain ice. Mine some ice to fill them up. Then build a container or two in a zone you need to cool quick. Build temp-plates of granite/sandstone behind and around them to speed up cooling and gain some heat-inertia if you unlocked those. Set those storage containers too prio 9, and your dupes will begin to move ice from ice biome containers with lower prio to these until they're filled (if it's not changed with the latest prio revamp). Look out for melting water if you plan this to serve as coolant long, or just move the ice back to to it's biome by switching priorities of the containers. 

[Zarquan]

Another thing you can do is use aquatuners to boil polluted water, which is then used to cool the clean water that comes out.  The specific heat of polluted water is significantly higher than water, so the act of boiling the polluted water destroys a ton of heat.

However, upon reading your post again, I think you are looking for something a bit more early-mid game.  I personally set up my farms in a thermally sealed area with one entrance.  You can do it in the early game without too much difficulty.  Then you only need a couple wheezeworts to make sure the farm stays cool.  I usually only allow 1 entrance, which is a CO2 lock and the rest is surrounded by abyssalite (double layered now).  You can substitute the abyssalite with insulated tiles of another kind.  I don't have any pictures of my setup (which is out of date because I've been too busy to play). 

One thing that is a bit weird is that you can take the overheated plant, dig it up, then replant it.  It plants at a good temperature, so it has to heat up again to get to its high temperature.

I usually don't build electrolyzers inside my base because they pump out oxygen and hydrogen at 70 C (158 F).  I usually build them outside my base and pump the air in, which gives me the option to cool it first and only have to cool the oxygen and feed the hot hydrogen to a hydrogen generator.

Also, to destroy the most heat with a wheezewort, you should put them in hydrogen.

[alown]

If you want to set a farm at a given temperature, you need to temperate your water.

For example, if you want bristtle berry, you can grow them in a co2 atmosphere, without worrying about temp. If your water is cold enough, your plant will get the body temperature near the temp of your water..

[Stoof]

The starting biome is the perfect temperature for growing early game crops and there are only 2 ways this can change. The first is heat from outside the biome, try to keep your crops away from the edges of the biome or insulate the farm with abyssalite or insulated tiles. The 2nd, which I'm guessing is more likely your problem is heat your producing inside your base. Try for the most part to keep heat producing buildings outside your base and never run an electrolyzer in your base.

[MidnightSteam]

Anti-Entropy-Thermo-Nulifiers, Wheezeworts, Slush geysers, and Aquatuners. Combine them all for the best results.  

Since you're using Wheezeworts, I'd suggest planting the pot on top of a door. Then connect the door to a Thermal sensor so it stifles the plant when your desired temperature is reached.

[medicdude]

My preferred method is to just make a cooling loop from the nearest ice biome. Just pump (any) liquid from the bottom of the biome, run a supply pipe out and return pipe back, then use regulating valves to control flow rate for the desired cooling. 

To prevent melting your ice too fast make sure to use insulated or abyssal pipe for the return and supply header. 

I also surround my farm with insulate tiles.

I generally don't care about heat, I use electrolyzer everywhere and sieve, just causes me to melt ice biome faster. Once melted I move supply pump to another ice.

[Neotuck]

3 minutes ago, medicdude said:

My preferred method is to just make a cooling loop from the nearest ice biome. Just pump (any) liquid from the bottom of the biome, run a supply pipe out and return pipe back, then use regulating valves to control flow rate for the desired cooling. 

To prevent melting your ice too fast make sure to use insulated or abyssal pipe for the return and supply header. 

I also surround my farm with insulate tiles.

I generally don't care about heat, I use electrolyzer everywhere and sieve, just causes me to melt ice biome faster. Once melted I move supply pump to another ice.

what happens when you run out of ice?

[medicdude]

2 minutes ago, Neotuck said:

what happens when you run out of ice?

 eventually you will have to start using thermo nullifier and hydrogen room full of wheeze wort with a heat exchange pipe looping thru. It's actually possible to make a continuous chilling loop without a pump, you just use bridge pieces to trick the system to flow in a circle. I prefer to use direct liquid contact in the ice biome for faster heat transfer so I don't have to dig the whole biome out for heat exchanger. 

 The water you feed your farm is the biggest culprit of the heat up; you need to make sure you source water at the right temp, or simply provide a ton of cooling to offset hot water.

If you must use hot water (or are lazy like me) :

You can make hydro farm out of dirt or clay, use whichever one has lower heat transfer. (Heat capacity doesn't ever matter for continual cooling, only heat transfer). Also you can fill the farm with CO2 which has abysmal heat transfer, and put insulated tiles underneath the hydro farm tiles so they can't exchange heat there either. And make the water supply pipe insulated or abyssal. 

One low tech option is to use ice filled compactor to cool farm room. You would probably need several compactor with 1000kg (ish) maximum each.

[Lilalaunekuh]

54 minutes ago, medicdude said:

You can make hydro farm out of dirt or clay, use whichever one has lower heat transfer.

Just build farm tiles out of clay/gold amalgam and cool your farm room:

Consider that you can destroy so much heat, if you feed hot liquid into your farms and just cool the plants/room. So you need less cooling to keep your farm at constant 20 degree.

[Kabrute]

[JonnyMonroe]

In the very early game insulate your farm and it should stay cool just from the low temperature of your starting water supply (water makes up the majority of the thermal mass in a farm). Next up start working exploring and as you do so set up a few compactors submerged in your water supply. Set them to accept ice and snow and cap their storage at something like 4-500kg each, with a priority above your colony average. As you dig through ice biomes your dupes will carry ice back which will cool your existing water supply as well as extend its lifespan before you have a geyser supply running. As you're exploring you can start to move wheezes into your base. A handful spotted around your grills and machinery should be plenty to cool a normal living area. Once you're forced to use geyser water you'll need to start using some more power intensive solutions, although tbh with ranches providing water free food now you only really need water for electrolysis and it's easier and makes more sense to cool the air from that than to cool any geyser water, and that can be achieved with wheezes or an AETN.