Repseki Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just recently started up a new base, and have found both a cool steam geyser and iron volcano right next to each other just outside the starting biome. I'm still rather new to the game, and haven't really dealt with geysers that much, and definitely not the new volcanoes so any helpful info would be great. Does anyone have any tips, tricks, or system examples they would be willing to share on how to actually cool the thing enough to get metal out of it reliably so I can plan ahead? Any ideas for the steam geyser would be welcome as well. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Hello, to be honest I would suggest making sure that it cannot erupt, and wait until it is dormant, once it is dormant do your work. Otherwise you risk it erupting and literally cooking the area. There are several different options, if it were me, I would build an abysallite room around it and have a single entrance into it using three airlocks made out of wolframite as this should handle the heat and not melt. Use automation to close and open the middle door, this will cause a vacuum to form, stopping all heat transfers. Inside the room I would build a radiator made out of obsidian (Should not melt) I would then pump hydrogen through this and into a room with water/steam to power a steam generator. Eventually the entire room should cool down to a few hundred degrees celcius, after that happens I would pump super cooled air in. but thats just me. Cuz i want power from it as well. but for yourself using an Anti Entropy Thermo Nullifier to cool it is probably a good idea, might take a while though. Cool steam geyser you can use straight to your electrolyzers with Abysalite pipes, if you want to cool it down then I am not sure, I have only recently started trying to cool the water as well Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellshound38 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I tried using one to make steam generator power. However it just kept having problems and made getting the metal difficult. So I gave up, it flows down a abyssalite insulated path, and collects next to an anti entrophy thermo nullifier, seperated by metal tiles, with the metal tiles also making the surface area the molten iron lands on. The anti-entropy cools a hydrogen filled room next door, and keeps the metal tiles at like -170. The molten iron flows and lands on the metal tiles and instantly turns solid. Dupes pick it up and place it into storage within my temporary tank of polluted water before fertilizers. Thus this slowly cools the metal and the heat, which barely effects the large tank of polluted water is about to be deleted anyway. I do use 3 doors with the middle a vacuum and surround the entire thing in abyssalite to prevent the heat from leaking from the anti entrophy area, however the polluted water tank barely heats up so its open. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 If you keep a vacuum in the valcano then you can use a water lock so dupes can dig the iron Have the bottom of the room granite tiles and below that hydrogen filled room with wheezewarts. The valcano should be idle long enough to cool the eruption periods Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vovik Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Neotuck said: If you keep a vacuum in the valcano then you can use a water lock so dupes can dig the iron Have the bottom of the room granite tiles and below that hydrogen filled room with wheezewarts. The valcano should be idle long enough to cool the eruption periods AETN, whezeworts.. wat? use heat, not void it... or maybe use first and then void it... steam turbines? refine petroleum... boil polluted water... maybe more applications to heat i missed? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, vovik said: AETN, whezeworts.. wat? use heat, not void it... or maybe use first and then void it... steam turbines? refine petroleum... boil polluted water... maybe more applications to heat i missed? Cook fertilizer to dirt or sand. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neotuck Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Zarquan said: Cook fertilizer to dirt or sand. I have heard this a lot but I'm not clear on why. Isn't fertilizer more useful than dirt or sand? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 With dirt, you can fill outhouses to produce more morbs if you run out of dirt. With sand, you can have a renewable sand source with which you can use deodorizers and (more importantly) water sieves. And yes, with the rock granulator there is more sand on the map than we could ever use, but it is not theoretically sustainable, as you will eventually run out of crushable rocks. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repseki Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks for the ideas, should give me some options on what to work towards. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1019904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vovik Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 hmmm, rock volcano is igneous rock... rosck is sand via crusher.. renewing sand throughfertilizer is outr way, not sand crushing! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1020242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argelle Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Any update or picture of you setup to cool down metal volcano ? I'm a bit concerned by the 2000°C output (and no nearby cooling geyser, quite the opposite, a evrry warm useless CO2 geyser). It took quite a while to set up a cooling system for water (from 70°C to a bit less than 30°C) or oxygen (regular -10°C) but cooling 2000 ?!??? Any pointer? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/89111-need-some-guidance-with-metal-volcano-cooling/#findComment-1023127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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