OfficialLolicon Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Got curious. It's common sense that some gases are lighter than other gases. (Example: Oxygen is lighter than Carbon dioxide) However, debug mode showed a lot more gases than I knew about, so a small request: Can someone show me the arrangement of gases base on weight from lightest to heaviest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Hydrogen Helium CarbonGas ContaminatedOxygen Oxygen Methane Steam PhosphorusGas ChlorineGas CarbonDioxide Propane RockGas SteelGas IronGas CopperGas TungstenGas GoldGas MercuryGas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficialLolicon Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 16 hours ago, Risu said: Hydrogen Helium CarbonGas ContaminatedOxygen Oxygen Methane Steam PhosphorusGas ChlorineGas CarbonDioxide Propane RockGas SteelGas IronGas CopperGas TungstenGas GoldGas MercuryGas Thank you! I can finally get to work with my experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hechicera Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I built my own fractionator for mid-game. Lots of areas with 2-4 gases, and I can just pipe it there for sorting. Great for lower electric as I use less gas filters, but can make for some longer pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hechicera said: I built my own fractionator for mid-game. Lots of areas with 2-4 gases, and I can just pipe it there for sorting. Great for lower electric as I use less gas filters, but can make for some longer pipes. Just make a mechanical filter. Much easier. Also, you can't sort polluted oxygen from clean oxygen by gravity as they are exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hechicera Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Mine was mechanical, just organized. I know I can wait for gravity, but sometimes I am impatient. I find it efficient for clearing rooms after sealing them once I have the better doors. I'm not terribly concerned about the polluted sort then as I'm likely using the deoderizers to start handing the effects of dupes going out with basic doors and no suits to explore. I play explore heavy. I am impatient since my expansion needs in that stage are often temperature based. I have enough spare power to sort gases, but no solutions at that stage for heat problems. I can see once I have the heat solutions worked out that it becomes less useful. One thing that bugs me with gravity (which is not relevant to gameplay) is carbon dioxide vs chlorine gas. Game gravity sorts the carbon dioxide below chlorine gas, but the specific gravity and weight of chlorine gas is heavier. So it did not work as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 @Hechicera I'm talking about this type of mechanical filter which just sorts the incoming gases automatically without using power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hechicera Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Link is for liquids? The relevance is that gravity will work on gases, but it is slow. I'm all into quick, dirty and cheap at that stage of my game play. I realize I may be lowbrow in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hechicera said: Link is for liquids? Did you check the link? Apparently not! The set up I demonstrate filters gases but can be used on liquids as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfficialLolicon Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Hechicera said: I built my own fractionator for mid-game. Lots of areas with 2-4 gases, and I can just pipe it there for sorting. Great for lower electric as I use less gas filters, but can make for some longer pipes. Well, I know that some gas exist,but I was also curious with the gas state of certain "metals" which can't be obtain easily in a real game. Even if you do, pumping them wouldn't be easy since they're too hot and might even end up liquifiying (or solidify) in lower temperatures. I tried, but my work might be wrong that's why it happened. I might as for the liquid ver. soon (with the molten stuff) but I might find that thing myself if I have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 And for a low fuss option, there's always a loop of regular gas filters. As long as you don't mind a web of pipes going every where. Might be the only set of filters you'll ever use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parusoid Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 4.12.2017 at 9:31 AM, Risu said: Hydrogen Helium CarbonGas ContaminatedOxygen Oxygen Methane Steam PhosphorusGas ChlorineGas CarbonDioxide Propane RockGas SteelGas IronGas CopperGas TungstenGas GoldGas MercuryGas Since when do we have helium in oni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggles Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Parusoid said: Since when do we have helium in oni In debug mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnus Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Parusoid said: Since when do we have helium in oni Did you read the list? It lists all gases that are currently in debug mode regardless if they are in or even can be made in survival mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggsvbacon Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Saturnus said: Did you read the list? It lists all gases that are currently in debug mode regardless if they are in or even can be made in survival mode. Is the implementation On 12/4/2017 at 12:31 AM, Risu said: gas weight list Are the current implementations of these gasses commonly produced in ONI realistic in terms of their counterparts? Just curious, one reason I am fascinated by the game is due to the physics with the gasses and water, obviously, there are limitations and oversights in every game though. Would love to know if I'm actually learning something about gasses in a passive sense, I mean, most people know that the weight of gasses and liquids have various weights and separate or intermingle. Speaking of which, I want to see some stuff float in water, I don't know why, but I suddenly want floating stuff in ONI water ponds. Stress relief for dupes, have a swim, have a float in an interrtube or a lovely floating garden. I'm not sure, I've heard mention of some sort of aqueduct type utilities that haven't been implemented, but I want that too. Get me some water slides!! I know it's not realistic and this isn't roller coaster tycoon or something, just a fun thought, some late, late, late polish perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Fox Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, eggsvbacon said: ... Would love to know if I'm actually learning something about gasses in a passive sense, I mean, most people know that the weight of gasses and liquids have various weights and separate or intermingle. Speaking of which, I want to see some stuff float in water, I don't know why, but I suddenly want floating stuff in ONI water ponds. ... Yes and no. I guess for game balance reasons, some of the gases in ONI don't follow their real-life counter-parts exactly in terms of what's heavier then another. For example, chlorine gas should be heavier then CO2 because it nearly always bonds with itself, producing a diatomic molecule. Also, natural gas is mostly made of methane and should be lighter then O2. Same thing for steam, H2O in gas form is definitely lighter then O2. How do you think the clouds stay up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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