chemie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 So I figured "Copper Ore is useless" so I mashed it all to copper (planning to use iron or gold for everything and with the only choice of "continuous or +1 I figured I would fire and forget on copper) Then I decide I need a few more exosuits ...and....it turns out they need copper ore, and ONLY copper ore with no way to select something else. So, no more copper ore, and it is only in starting biome, and I need exosuits. Dang...these is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joi Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 i did this once. luckily i had a lot of copper wire i could deconstruct. i see this requirement changing to "refined metal." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WanderingKid Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Annnnnd.... restart world. You're pretty much hosed. You can probably recover some from your original wiring and equipment that you built (wires, generators, algae stuff, mesh/air tiles, etc) but you would end up pretty tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I have been savaging around but seem to have a done a good job of using mostly iron my my base. Two oxidizers donated to the cause amd I found one single ore tile but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi3f Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You can also deconstruct the ruins around the world for copper ore and some refined copper. So that's an option too. You would need to hit up a few ruins to have enough for an exosuit or two but if you refined it all that's the only copper available outside the starting biome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, mi3f said: You can also deconstruct the ruins around the world for copper ore and some refined copper. So that's an option too. You would need to hit up a few ruins to have enough for an exosuit or two but if you refined it all that's the only copper available outside the starting biome. I found a ruin with copper mesh tile but deconstruct is a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi3f Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, chemie said: I found a ruin with copper mesh tile but deconstruct is a no go. There are ruins with copper wire that is indeed deconstructable. I wasn't really talking specifically about the floor mesh tiles, I've never tried to deconstruct them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 20 hours ago, mi3f said: There are ruins with copper wire that is indeed deconstructable. I wasn't really talking specifically about the floor mesh tiles, I've never tried to deconstruct them I did. It does not work. Edit: It did work; I had a missing ladder to access. This got me lots of copper. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenIsAGeek Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Yeah, someone asked for tips to a sustainable base and in my reply I mentioned: "As soon as you have access to another metal, stop using copper. You'll need it for exo-suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhailRaptor Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 hours ago, chemie said: I did. It does not work. That must have been a change in the Auto Update, then. Previously you could deconstruct the Wires to all the broken Light Fixtures from inside the ceiling Ruins Tiles, as well as the Insulted Tiles and Mesh Tiles in the various Ruins. In particular, the one that spawns in the Heat Biome, with the Morb and the pool of clean Water inside it that has the row of Mesh Tiles all the way across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxterr Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 you gotta have some copper wires from early on in the game don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 51 minutes ago, Daxterr said: you gotta have some copper wires from early on in the game don't you? He refined it all, so he has none. Short of debugging it into the game or finding some machines made out of it he has no hope. I use my copper solely for starting electronics, and exo suits, Iron for buildings and Gold for refining, I keep some gold for buildings in hot environments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Daxterr said: you gotta have some copper wires from early on in the game don't you? Sadly, I had already replaced those and that was part of the copper I mashed. It is OK. I have enough exosuits; just can build another station that would have been nice. My concern is more the fact that they require a resource that is only in starting biome but it is easy to deplete even without mashing like stupid me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 It isnt exactly super easy, Not everyone will refine their entire metal supply XD Most people use it for early electrics and forget it exists I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 OK. I did not remember that poles are copper so now I have 10t after changing all those early game poles to iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Poles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, BlueLance said: Poles? The fire station poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 OOOOH! Well thats great! I only start building them when I finally hit iron so I never even thought about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelix Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 copper is not useless. its 2nd conductive raw metal after wolframite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 16 hours ago, Angelix said: copper is not useless. its 2nd conductive raw metal after wolframite sure so use wolf when you want conductive. Once you have all the metals, don;t you just min/max and the stuff in the middle is useless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Even wolframite is useless for plumbing now since we can refine it into tungsten for 4x the conductivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Risu said: Even wolframite is useless for plumbing now since we can refine it into tungsten for 4x the conductivity. but is essentially the same as gold....although copper ore does bring high heat capacity to the table but iron beats it there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, chemie said: but is essentially the same as gold Gold isn't a plumbing material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemie Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just now, Risu said: Gold isn't a plumbing material. fair enough; I was just looking at my handy-dandy heat capacity and thermal conductivity piece of paper as this has been an area of interest to see what are best materials for what. Still trying to decide on best door materials for a three-door, two vacuum camber temperature isolation system. Not sure if high or low heat capacity is best for the outer door (might depend on how frequent it cycles I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLance Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 5:16 PM, Risu said: Even wolframite is useless for plumbing now since we can refine it into tungsten for 4x the conductivity. Hmm so for cooling etc using liquid pipes Tungsten is better then? I never knew that but if so I am glad you told me before I built any cooling mechanisms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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