DarkXero Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheHalcyonOne said: I do wish there was more Winter content. The challenges Winter presents early in the game make up the content but later on in a world it just turns into 15 days of eating and waiting for the Deerclops to show up. You could say the same about Spring. Or Summer. Or Autumn. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudley Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, DarkXero said: You could say the same about Spring. Or Summer. Or Autumn. Specially summer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 I never get the dragonfly outside the desert though. I like the challenge of freezing. Summer does not seem to offer me any exclusive mobs. Guess who sets this season to very short... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 In Spring and Autumn, there's stuff to harvest, and in Summer you can go down into the caves to explore to your heart's content with no fuss. Not saying there's tons of riveting activities, but at least stuff to kill time. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, TheHalcyonOne said: In Spring and Autumn, there's stuff to harvest, and in Summer you can go down into the caves to explore to your heart's content with no fuss. Not saying there's tons of riveting activities, but at least stuff to kill time. Stuff like what? Even more cut grass? Even more twigs? Reeds? It doesn't take me 20 days to harvest everything I need. After I explore the caves and kill the Guardian, what do I do now? The ruins don't get new gems or thulecite, they get barren. At this point you go smack the Dragonfly like it's a piñata. You play the waiting game a lot. In Autumn, you harvest once in a while (if you need it) , and you wait for the Bearger. In Spring, you harvest once, and you wait for the Moose. In Summer, you harvest once in a while (if you need it), and you can move through the caves like it was Autumn. No caves? Then it's more waiting. Unless you are playing "build the mega base". If there's something that needs love before Winter, it's Summer. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiddyGuy Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, DarkXero said: No caves? Then it's more waiting. Unless you are playing "build the mega base". Well you could start tracking dirt piles, trying to find a Ewecus and killing it, make a (dark sword) war saddle, and start taming a beefalo. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainFun Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 On 5/23/2016 at 2:13 PM, Arlesienne said: Don't you think the walruses should be stronger or at least rarer? Not rarer. My most recent world has only 1 McTusk camp and he never drops anything. I think he should be a bit tougher though. Like, I shouldn't be able to just chase him to the end of his range and stunlock him when he decides to turn around. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, GiddyGuy said: start taming a beefalo. Would rather commit sudoku. Spoiler Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudley Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, DarkXero said: After I explore the caves and kill the Guardian, what do I do now? And talking about him, does he respawn in DST? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkXero Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mudley said: And talking about him, does he respawn in DST? Nope. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudley Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, DarkXero said: Nope. Well, that seems kinda dumb, having to create another server to fight it again. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiddyGuy Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, DarkXero said: Would rather commit sudoku. Can you teach me how to...SUDOKU! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, DarkXero said: Nope. How come? In a bit over two days for me. Counted to the day. If you mean MacTusk, of course. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudley Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 40 minutes ago, Arlesienne said: How come? In a bit over two days for me. Counted to the day. If you mean MacTusk, of course. He's talking about the Ancient Guardian. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faintly Macabre Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, DarkXero said: Unless you are playing "build the mega base". If you're not doing this it seems like the entertainment value of the game would die in quite a hurry. I assumed this is what everyone's doing if they're playing more than a couple hundred days. I guess I can give you this, though: 1 hour ago, DarkXero said: If there's something that needs love before Winter, it's Summer. 1 hour ago, Mudley said: Well, that seems kinda dumb, having to create another server to fight it again. It's very dumb, particularly without the teleportato in play. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
l96735063 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 On 2016/5/23 at 6:11 AM, PillsStealer said: 杀了他们的一个简单的方法是冷冻MacTusk然后杀猎犬 然后谋杀绝望MacTusk Sorry, I really want Wigrifd Survivor, but I only have WX-78 Battered, Body Case and Unshadow Suit Survivor I can not add friends on the steam, because I added in your page prompted to add the error, may be you because my name is China and the shield me? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-775993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitato Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Its a bit annoying for me at times. Tusk runs faster then me, i dont have a cane, not wearing winter clothing cuz fighting, so after killing hounds and b tusk i often take alot of damage from tusk trying to get heat back up ;_; Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 14 hours ago, Axehilt said: If you're positive about that number, please update the wiki. Your comment about Tam being called amazing makes no sense. It has double the sanity gain of the second-best sanity hat in DST. Night sanity drain is probably 80-90% of all sanity drain that happens in DST. Why on earth would you hate people calling it amazing? It basically removes sanity concerns from the game while worn (while also providing great insulation and lasting long.) Oh, damn. I was sure it was 6.6. Well, my mistake, sorry. What's the second best sanity hat? Night Sanity drain is again, easily managable by the other ways that instantly restore sanity instead of as you wear something 10 hours ago, DarkXero said: Would rather commit sudoku. Reveal hidden contents How much time ahead did you plan this joke? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axehilt Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 hour ago, AnonymousKoala said: Oh, damn. I was sure it was 6.6. Well, my mistake, sorry. What's the second best sanity hat? Night Sanity drain is again, easily managable by the other ways that instantly restore sanity instead of as you wear something How much time ahead did you plan this joke? Second best sanity hat is Top Hat.. (Hats wiki) If your stance is 'sanity is a trivial challenge that never challenges me' then why is your stance also 'the Tam should continue to make sanity a nonexistent challenge'? DST's fun rests on whether it can provide interesting challenges to players. DST's challenges are currently multi-layered (with sanity, light, temperature, food, and combat/HP all being managed at once) and that's why they're interesting (since individually each of them is too shallow to make things interesting on its own.) Removing layers is a bad idea. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Axehilt said: Second best sanity hat is Top Hat.. (Hats wiki) If your stance is 'sanity is a trivial challenge that never challenges me' then why is your stance also 'the Tam should continue to make sanity a nonexistent challenge'? DST's fun rests on whether it can provide interesting challenges to players. DST's challenges are currently multi-layered (with sanity, light, temperature, food, and combat/HP all being managed at once) and that's why they're interesting (since individually each of them is fairly shallow.) Removing layers is a bad idea. My stance is not removing the Tam O'. I enjoy having it around. I just personally never found it that good because night sanity drain isn't that big of a deal in most of my playthroughs. Then again I play the regular DS more, so maybe its different in DST. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axehilt Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 1 minute ago, AnonymousKoala said: My stance is not removing the Tam O'. I enjoy having it around. I just personally never found it that good because night sanity drain isn't that big of a deal in most of my playthroughs. Then again I play the regular DS more, so maybe its different in DST. Oh sorry, I didn't see the post where someone asked for the Tam to be removed. That would be bad, of course. I'm just asking for balance. It would still be great as a 6.7 sanity hat (with nothing else, or a 3.3 sanity hat (with 120 insulation), and then it'd be great if a new hat covered whichever of those stats the Tam didn't. If you think sanity overall isn't very challenging, then it's a little confusing why you'd want to make it even less challenging. It's only by providing multiple layers of challenges at once (sanity, food, HP/combat, light, temperature) that DST is able to remain interesting, since each layer in isolation is relatively shallow. So if anything you should be in favor of reducing the sanity gain on all hats, since managing sanity with one-off consumables (picking flowers, cooked mushrooms, etc) involves a more constant flow of decisions and can change depending on the biomes you're forced to go by the other challenges. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlesienne Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Alright. So it is basically just me who wants more of a challenge with the walruses OR OTHER MOBS WITH A STORY...? What I mean by this: the MacTusks seem to have a story. They do not defend their territory like guardian pigs or merms do. They do not pursue you for food like (presumably) hounds or a bearger. They actively hunt you for fun. Such opponents instill a much fiercer response. They also inspire cooperation between players. I would love more aggressive mobs like them. Ones with a story and, you know... more of a worthy opponent status. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, Arlesienne said: Alright. So it is basically just me who wants more of a challenge with the walruses OR OTHER MOBS WITH A STORY...? What I mean by this: the MacTusks seem to have a story. They do not defend their territory like guardian pigs or merms do. They do not pursue you for food like (presumably) hounds or a bearger. They actively hunt you for fun. Such opponents instill a much fiercer response. They also inspire cooperation between players. I would love more aggressive mobs like them. Ones with a story and, you know... more of a worthy opponent status. I'd actually love more of this 1 hour ago, Axehilt said: Oh sorry, I didn't see the post where someone asked for the Tam to be removed. That would be bad, of course. I'm just asking for balance. It would still be great as a 6.7 sanity hat (with nothing else, or a 3.3 sanity hat (with 120 insulation), and then it'd be great if a new hat covered whichever of those stats the Tam didn't. If you think sanity overall isn't very challenging, then it's a little confusing why you'd want to make it even less challenging. It's only by providing multiple layers of challenges at once (sanity, food, HP/combat, light, temperature) that DST is able to remain interesting, since each layer in isolation is relatively shallow. So if anything you should be in favor of reducing the sanity gain on all hats, since managing sanity with one-off consumables (picking flowers, cooked mushrooms, etc) involves a more constant flow of decisions and can change depending on the biomes you're forced to go by the other challenges. Reducing? What? Who said that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axehilt Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, AnonymousKoala said: Reducing? What? Who said that? I said it. Of you. You appear to think sanity challenges are currently trivial. Players who feel that way should be in favor of reducing all of the easy-mode passive sanity benefits to hats, because it provides a more interesting challenge. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousKoala Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, Axehilt said: I said it. Of you. You appear to think sanity challenges are currently trivial. Players who feel that way should be in favor of reducing all of the easy-mode passive sanity benefits to hats, because it provides a more interesting challenge. They're trivial because of knowledge in the game(everything is). My hatred for the tam o' shanter is because its sanity gain is only high enough to negate night drain and that's it, and in most situations that's not that impressive. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/67578-the-mactusks-arent-they-overpowered/page/2/#findComment-776120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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