TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Ok, so I was thinking about how walls are basically useless, as they are so easy to get through and really offer no protection for bases at all. So I was thinking of possible alternatives and then I got it...Punji traps! Punji traps are holes in the ground with spikes made of wood pointing upwards, stabbing anyone who falls in. Here is a picture: So the crafting recipe would be 2x Shovel + 10x Wood and would require an Alchemy engine. They would be holes in the ground, that if the player walks over, would fall in and die instantly. Now, the interesting part is that like real Punji traps you can cover them up and make them invisible. You would use Turfs to cover the pit and to any player the trap looks like an ordinary piece of land until walking over it of course, where they will fall through the turf and die a spiky death. This way you can effectively protect your base by surrounding it with Punji traps, making every grieffer´s life on the server a nightmare. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted July 24, 2015 Developer Share Posted July 24, 2015 People would grief with this alot.This would become the new "tentacles right at the portal" trap. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 People would grief with this alot.This would become the new "tentacles right at the portal" trap. I was thinking this would be added to Wilderness. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted July 24, 2015 Developer Share Posted July 24, 2015 I was thinking this would be added to Wilderness. Oh well, then it'd be harder to grief with it, yeah... But people COULD put those in random places of the map JUST to screw others up... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Oh well, then it'd be harder to grief with it, yeah... But people COULD put those in random places of the map JUST to screw others up... My point is that people won´t spawn in the same place. Because it would require an Alchemy Engine to craft. Trolls/grieffers tend to just wonder around with a torches and burn anything they see that´s valuable, it´s very rare that they´ll go beyond making a science machine. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer ImDaMisterL Posted July 24, 2015 Developer Share Posted July 24, 2015 it´s very rare that they´ll go beyond making a science ma Let's just hope we don't bump into those smart and patient griefers. These're very rare, but they exist... unfortunately... Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Let's just hope we don't bump into those smart and patient griefers. These're very rare, but they exist... unfortunately... They do, but my problem are the people who log in as Wigfred or Webber, stumble luckily upon my base, burn the whole thing down or plant spider eggs in the middle of it, log out and destroy hours of work in a matter of minutes. At least if you are going to rek my ****, put some work into it, that I can respect =) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromailmann Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't think old traps used for wars would work. Everybody would find a counter. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 I don't think old traps used for wars would work. Everybody would find a counter. It would probably need some balancing out, but definitely something has to be done. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphKastro Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 At least if you are going to rek my ****, put some work into it, that I can respect =) Yes. This is a good point. I like this idea. It could work like a turf on itself, until somebody steps on it. There are risks, specially for the already frail Survival mode and for griefers in endless, but as long as it is disarmable(with a pitchfork, for example, if you know exactly where it is), it could be a nice addition.I'm not sure about if it should have some kind of art cue, like a mimic chest. If it was simgle player, I would be for it, but in Multiplayer it seems to be able to potentially ruin it's use. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromailmann Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 It would probably need some balancing out, but definitely something has to be done. And Klei said they're working on it.They're also working on PvP, Caves, Through the Ages, Exclusive RoG Owner content, Skins, and bug fixes. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny5isAlive Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm not sure about if it should have some kind of art cue Could just keep the whole "Two different turfs touching" dividing line between the trap and regular turf, would only fool new players Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XirmiX Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 And Klei said they're working on it.They're also working on PvP, Caves, Through the Ages, Exclusive RoG Owner content, Skins, and bug fixes.I thought that was a "forgotten >_>" for the devs and they just grabbed everyone into the DS world to keep everyone who mentions it away from the rest of us who aren't so curious about it (since, well, we all know that Klei devs are Them, amiright? ) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromailmann Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I thought that was a "forgotten >_>" for the devs and they just grabbed everyone into the DS world to keep everyone who mentions it away from the rest of us who aren't so curious about it (since, well, we all know that Klei devs are Them, amiright? )And who on the dev team ever said that? Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Meh, these seem like glorified tooth traps to me :/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 Meh, these seem like glorified tooth traps to meTooth traps don´t work on players tho =/ Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XirmiX Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 And who on the dev team ever said that?-.- It was a joke. Thanks for killing it. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNamedChris Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Tooth traps don´t work on players tho =/wouldn't it just be easier to have tooth traps work on players in pvp servers instead of adding in a whole new item? (i think this thread belongs in the Suggestions and Feedback topic) Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 wouldn't it just be easier to have tooth traps work on players in pvp servers instead of adding in a whole new item? (i think this thread belongs in the Suggestions and Feedback topic) But you want tooth traps to work on mobs. It´s the whole Small Bird problem all over again! Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhaithere Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Holy crap, this idea is as boring as it gets. Spikes on a hole? Lol, talk about a snoozefest. Gtfo.What DST really needs...M4 traps. Now this **** is as real as it gets. If you think deterrence, you think M4. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyromailmann Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 M4 traps. Now this **** is as real as it gets. I'll admit, I laughed. But only out of how much effort you put in to Photoshop M4's onto the pictures. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingofSquirrels Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Holy crap, this idea is as boring as it gets. Spikes on a hole? Lol, talk about a snoozefest. Gtfo.What DST really needs...M4 traps. Now this **** is as real as it gets. If you think deterrence, you think M4. That´s amazing. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare2V Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Oh sure, let's just add a trap that randomly kills players regardless of their preparation or their observations in a game entirely developed around survival based on preparation and observation. Link to comment https://forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/56460-punji-traps-idea-for-dst-that-will-solve-grieffing-in-pvp/#findComment-657310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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